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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 235 points 2 years ago

Just pirate or I guess spoof your user agent, but just pirate instead: Don't give Amazon money.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago

or I guess spoof your user agent

That won't help. The issue is Widevine DRM protection level. It's the same issue everywhere.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 109 points 2 years ago

Piracy it is! The system fails again!

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago

Nothing like being pushed into piracy by anti piracy measures, gj corporations

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 26 points 2 years ago

As is tradition.

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[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago

YouTube purchases also don't work beyond 480p on any desktop except for Mac Safari. These companies are fucking insane.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago

And if you purchased movies from Sony instead, they will just remove them all from your account.

[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Guys, relax. Cancel your amazon and Netflix subscription and download streamio and use it with torrentio or real-debrid add-in.

how to setup guide here

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[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago
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[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 years ago

It doesn't matter how much DRM you put into the service. someone can just spin up a Virtual Machine and install chrome, windows in it and then record the stream from the host system.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 50 points 2 years ago

Louis Rossman has done a couple videos about this and I tend to agree - Paying customers get a worse experience.

You use the official apps and real accounts and you are still subject to artificial bandwidth restrictions. You use the official YouTube app on your smart TV and you get 10+ midroll ads at unnatural places during a 12 minute video. You "own" purchased content in one platform and it can still be taken away from you or made inaccessible when a service gets collapsed into another platform or rebranded etc. I'm not going to re-buy the same fucking movie I already owned on one streaming platform and have already owned on 2 different formats of physical release.

Curating your own digital copies, regardless of how you obtain them, is the only way to guarantee quality and availability anymore.

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[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago

Seems like there is no legitimate way for you to get that content. I guess youre forced to be a pirate!

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

Yo ho ho, a pirateโ€™s life for me.

[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 41 points 2 years ago

That's the case for pretty much all systems that use widevine - you can blame google for it, as they are the one that built the widevine DRM that all streaming services use

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[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 37 points 2 years ago

This is why even though I pay for prime, I pirate everything. It's amusing to pay for a service that your experience is better pirating than using the service you pay for.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

dude uses linux but pays for prime you cant make this shit up

[-] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 16 points 2 years ago

Are you unaware of the shipping with prime? I didn't buy it for the video lol.

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[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Prime primarly has nothing to do with software. It's a delivery service.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Dude doesn't know what Amazon Prime is for, you can't make this shit up

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[-] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 34 points 2 years ago

Maybe if you fake your user agent it would think you're on Windows.

Did you mark this as NSFW because Amazon fucks those running Linux?

[-] tobbue@feddit.de 32 points 2 years ago

It's not even really better on Windows. (Nearly) all streaming services restrict resolution to 720p if you watch on a PC, mobile phone or tablet. With the exception of Netflix if you watch with Microsoft Edge or Chrome, I believe.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You have no idea how insane i went trying to figure out why clarkson farm was playing at extremely low quality, pixelated 320p on my PC before I realized Amazon just hated Linux.

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[-] yamapikariya@lemmyfi.com 27 points 2 years ago
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[-] tty5@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Netflix limits you to 720p even on windows, unless you are using Edge: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 (expand HTML5 browsers and scroll down).

This limitation doesn't apply to all content - it's the worst case scenario if copyright holder really put their foot down.

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[-] r0bi@infosec.pub 26 points 2 years ago

And yet their servers are using Linux to host a subpar experience for Linux clients.

Hey Amazon, use Windows and MacOS servers (lolz) instead for HD/UHD stream hosting!

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[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I gave up on prime video long ago for this bullshit, they're also not the only streaming to serve crap quality on linux.

We really get much better content, quality, experience, and for a cheaper price just by navigating high seas these days.

[-] mutter9355@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 years ago

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[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

idk why but i thought this would be amazon sending you a picture of goatse

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[-] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 years ago

Time to sail the high seas!

[-] AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl 21 points 2 years ago

At this point they're just begging us to go high seas

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 20 points 2 years ago

bflix dot tee oh

fmovies dot tea oooh

join the open seas my friend

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[-] krigo666@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And this kind of shenanigans are why I don't use any kind of paid streaming service... This and the crap that Sony pulled on buyers of content. Fuck 'em.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 years ago
[-] maf@szmer.info 16 points 2 years ago

This restriction is meant to protect high definition content from being ripped by pirates. Open systems don't offer the same DRM guarantees as the locked ones.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

locked ones don't provide DRM guarantees either. it takes a script kiddie five minutes to break DRM whenever some new scheme comes out.

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[-] Talaraine@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago

Ironically means that everything I watch on my Linux machine will definitely be pirated.

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Which is bullshit because DRM doesn't effectively prevent ripping (source: you can find pirated hd content). So it's literally only harmful to the customer.

I'll give you a quick demo of how DRM is literally useless at protecting content:

  • You need:
    • a machine with any Nvidia GPU series 600 or newer running Windows, a browser with DRM support (e.g. chrome), and optionally sunshine. This is not an uncommon setup
    • any other machine that can run moonlight (even a phone).\
  • Services often use widevine as DRM provider, so using the Nvidia machine visit this test page and make sure DRM is working
  • Normally the DRM api ensure that the decrypted content of that video can never in any form get out of a special GPU buffer, not even the browser can access it
  • enable sunshine on the machine
  • Connect from the second machine to the using moonlight and notice that the video is not being shared. DRM seems to be working correctly.
  • Now disable sunshine and enable Nvidia gamestream from GeForce experience, and set it up to share the whole desktop
  • connect from the second machine to the first using moonlight
  • now the video is being shared to the second machine, and DRM is circumvented. There is literally nothing preventing you from recording the screen on the second machine

Now, this is a terrible way of ripping content, it causes at least one reencoding, which reduces quality (a lot of people won't even notice it), but it is a stupidly simple working demo of DRM circumvention.

Btw, that procedure is not the result of some study, reverse engineering, or any clever stuff. I was literally playing a game in streaming and I went "hmm, I wonder what would happen if I streamed widevine" and it just worked.

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[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Easy fix for that, just spoof your browser fingerprint + use anti DPI
and if you still feel paranoid, install GhostNET & activate it

[-] dan@upvote.au 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

just spoof your browser fingerprint

That won't help if your platform or browser doesn't support Widevine. It's possible Amazon only support the Widevine implementation on Windows and MacOS, and no amount of browser spoofing is going to help you if your browser just doesn't have the right closed-source binary DRM blob.

[-] random8847@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Yup. The better solution is to vote with your wallet and sail the high seas ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ

[-] AltheaHunter 14 points 2 years ago

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