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While Take-Two is riding high on their announcement that a GTA 6 trailer is coming, its CEO has some…interesting ideas on how much video games could cost, part of a contingent of executives that believe games are underpriced, given their cost, length or some combination of the two.

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[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 290 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank fuck for indie devs making the best games right now at an affordable price.

I have over a thousand games in my steam library and my most played is dominated by indie games.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

I am curious which indie titles you would recommend.

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 153 points 1 year ago

The problem is an hour of what. Me wandering around trying to find something described vaguely and being frustrated, is not the same as an hour of well written and interesting dialogue.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Do people get refund if the game have a bug or a glitch that slow them down?

[-] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Or hell, what if I play the game for 20 minutes and hate it? Do they pay me? Do I give them 25 cents?

[-] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

An hour of grinding - that they will also sell you powerups to help you skip that grind.

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[-] GrapesOfAss@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

As a Morrowind player, I feel attacked

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[-] obelix@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago

Sounds like someone wants me to not buy their overpriced game.

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[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 118 points 1 year ago

Theoretically he can go fuck himself. All that is going to do is make games drag out mindless crap with no actual value entertainment-wise.

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[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, great idea, why wouldn't I want more low quality padding content in my games? It's not like they already have too much of it.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because everyone here is just reacting to the terrible Forbes headline because that's all people do. Here's the actual content that you can pick apart, instead of picking apart the headline that some Forbes editor wrote.

he thinks GTA is one of the best values on the market. Here’s what he said:

"In terms of our pricing for any entertainment property, basically the algorithm is the value of the expected entertainment usage, which is to say the per hour value times the number of expected hours plus the terminal value that's perceived by the customer in ownership, if the title is owned rather than rented or subscribed to."

So he was just saying that gta is good value for money given their metrics

[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He can still go fuck himself. I was promised single player DLC in GTA 5 and instead they put their entire focus on GTA online which I'm sure will continue with 6. I'll probably pirate it because, as much as I hate to admit it I'm still a fan, but I'm not giving them another cent.

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

"I will pirate because you didnt give me sp dlc" is one of the craziest reasons ahaha. GTA 5 was good value all things considered, was a great game.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 year ago

The less someone actually plays games, the more this idea will make sense to them.

Gamers, especially older gamers, will know this is a BS metric.

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[-] paris 56 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for them to try this, it flops, half the staff gets laid off, the CEO steps down with a golden parachute, the CEO trades places with the CEO of another tech company, that new CEO makes an even worse decision, another half of the staff gets laid off, the new CEO gets a raise, Microsoft buys both companies, Google makes a competing game studio that gets killed before their first game release, and Apple releases their first video game for $3000 that only runs on M2 and above.

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[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago

Executives are assholes and should not be listened to, ever.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 52 points 1 year ago

I've often come across this sentiment in Steam reviews and it's very reductive to judge games based mainly on this metric. Getting older I have less time for videogames and I value shorter games more. There are games that are extremely valuable because of their high quality even if very short, like the first Portal.

This is why we have companies like Ubisoft trying to game the system constantly with low quality content to pad the game to 100 hours or whatever is fashionable in open world these days. I will take 6 hours of quality single player anytime over 100 hours of AssCreed grinding and ridiculous 'story'

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 48 points 1 year ago

I agree, that's why i think Take Two owe me $23 because i finished GTAV in 37 hours.

Though i hope Wube, Bethesda, and Fromsoft won't bill me for my playtime...

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 46 points 1 year ago

Ok so somebody should ask this CEO how he expects gamers to pay potentially $200 per game.

What an idiot, games are priced at what the market will bear and they've pretty much reached that limit now.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago

When you get paid in 6-7 digits annually, ideas start to form that the peasants aren't paying you enough of their 2 digits.

He's out of touch and thinking about profit, like the blizz ceo pushing games-as-a-service

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[-] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago

I always prefer a good 5 hour experience over a bland 60 hour experience.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 39 points 1 year ago

Man, imagine if movies or books charged you by the hour. Lord of the Rings would make bank!

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[-] hydroel@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

If video games were priced by hours of dev time, I could kind of agree (with the theory, in practice it doesn't really make sense). But let's be honest here - that's not what he means at all.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Not only is it not what he means but this same asshole would probably force devs to add padded objectives just so he could claim it takes more hours to finish. The new GTA will have 1000 missions where you have to walk across the whole map to retrieve some object that needs to be walked back to the other side if this dick gets his way. It’ll be the first game in history where it takes 2 years to 100% it and costs $200 so it’s a steal - only $100 per year of gameplay!

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[-] EarWorm@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Unrelated question, does anyone know any good pirate sites?

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[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Then why are not GTA games priced at $20-30?

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Of course it's a Forbes article.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

So practically he wants to create a SaaS model to eternally milk their user base. As much as I like the game devs working for rockstar, their management is an utterly horrendous bunch of scums and in a way I wish that GTA6 is one giant flop.

[-] Enzy@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Good luck with that.

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[-] dynamo@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

They're gonna price it at 100$, i can feel it in ny bones

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

LMAO yeah right, eat shit take two

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

By that logic, imagine how much a soccer ball will cost!

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[-] Wodge@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

MW3s campaign for $4. Cool.

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[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Awesome proposal. Some indie games would suck me dry and I'd be paying 1/4 of the price for AAA releases! Is this the redistribution of wealth Marx has been talking about?

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

Shit like this is why I pirate.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

If that cost goes above $1/hr I’ll probably just not buy. That’s my base cost I’ll accept for paying for a game. If I’ve gotten $1/hr I find that I’ve gotten my moneys worth

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

So he's suggesting AAA games be about $5-$10 right?

[-] itslilith 22 points 1 year ago

Oh God, Factorio will cost me my life savings

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Any company that attacks modders can die in a fire. I for one won't be buying this crap.

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[-] Pseudonaut@lemmy.today 19 points 1 year ago

My logical brain: He’s not wrong. The rest of my brain: Yeah, good luck with that, asshole.

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