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[-] halezinflames@lemmus.org 5 points 10 hours ago

So when's OnlyOffice retiring its ridiculous "AI Mode" next?

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago

Microsoft is also unifying Copilot and Microsoft 365 Copilot into a single app as it simplifies how users access its AI tools across Microsoft 365.

Jesus is it really true that there are ~3 isolated teams working any mainline product at a given point? Using this stuff on iOS feels like it.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

I think they may have some independent teams for the translations as well. Otherwise why the fuck would they translate function names?

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

They have been translating function names as far back as I can remember... Spreadsheets are meant for the general office worker who doesn't necessarily speak English

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 39 points 19 hours ago

I can't imagine why they're taking this function out

[-] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 4 points 9 hours ago

Is this a real screen capture or are you having me on? Because did someone really ship this out????

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Came from this post about 10 months ago.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 16 points 18 hours ago

Turns out, "Math Program" didn't need a "Bullshit" button! Who knew?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 18 hours ago

God please let microsoft be the canary in the coalmine for an AI collapese

[-] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Thank fuck. It might only have been a year, but it's felt like 10. I use Excel a lot for work and copilot is only detrimental to it.

[-] dumnezero@piefed.social 23 points 22 hours ago

LibreOffice Calc glows harder

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 153 points 1 day ago

I can't imagine anything more useless than a nondeterministic Excel function.

[-] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 day ago

WHAT ABOUT RAND()? CHECKMATE AI HATERS!!! (/s)

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 27 points 1 day ago

Randomness can still be deterministic and useful. Monte Carlo simulations and whatnot

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

That's the funny bit - unlike rand() which is purelly random with a uniform distribution - a feature which as you point out is useful - and is reliably so, copilot at best has a wild-ass distribution with an the extremelly high dimensionality of its shape which is not even reliable because every time it's initialization parameters are tweaked or any model weights change, the shape of that distribution changes.

It's like they were trying to come up with the thing that's the closest possible to mathematically useless.

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

But what if that is what casinos use to be random?

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

I read that some have cameras pointed at a wall of lava lamps, they combine random pixel data, with timestamps to the nanosecond, to generate random data.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 28 points 1 day ago

What, you don't appreciate when your excel function just makes shit up? Weird ..

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I realize this is the wrong community to post it in, but I can imagine it being useful for things like summarization and cursory sentiment analysis, and perhaps for chaotic test data generation.

As with all AI, though, it's a wildly risky tool as it requires the user to understand its limitations and fallibility (as well as the million other issues AI brings with it).

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

I feel like that boils down to "I want a chart, but in words instead of visualization."

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Kind of - it's the step that makes the data uniform and (nominally) useful so it can then be aggregated and reported on.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It has some reasonable use-cases when dealing with text, the problem is that it's extremely easy for idiots to misuse it, either by trying to do math or by not supplying any cells in the optional second argument.

Not requiring the second argument was nuts, and it should probably have refused any query resulting in a number as well.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 31 points 1 day ago

It has some reasonable use-cases when dealing with text

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, those idiots trying to do math in Excel.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Idiots using a function without understanding what it actually does. Plenty of functions in Excel operate on text.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Or trying to do text in excel?!

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You may not like it, but Excel has long been the tool of choice for people who should really use a database but already know how to use this nice hammer. COPILOT() was marketed as a tool where you could pull in a bunch of text fields and do crude sentiment analysis or summaries of the individual fields, for example.

[-] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 17 points 1 day ago

How expensive was this to run for them? I kind of wanted to test it since there is a few outputs which would’ve been cool to see it be generated.

But I can imagine a 200 row sheet with COPILOT() being slow and very expensive to have.

Oh well

[-] Jesusaurus@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

And not even guaranteed to be accurate

[-] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 1 points 20 hours ago

There are some use cases where good enough works. Especially if your company doesn’t let you have access to code

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 11 hours ago

There's "good enough" and then there's "it worked on my machine that one time but everytime someone else runs the function we get a different result"

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 36 points 1 day ago

NOO! IT BREAKS MY WORKFLOW!! /s

[-] notabot@piefed.social 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't worry, you can just replace it with a call to RAND() and scale it appropriately.

Wonder whose was the excel sheet in which someone asked copilot to do some math and resulted in a few millions lost by "a honest mistake" of the artificial idiocy...

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 1 points 19 hours ago

I have added the list to the files that are deleted and have cleared the recycle bin.

What else can I do for you?

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