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[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 155 points 1 day ago

I can't imagine anything more useless than a nondeterministic Excel function.

[-] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 66 points 1 day ago

WHAT ABOUT RAND()? CHECKMATE AI HATERS!!! (/s)

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 27 points 1 day ago

Randomness can still be deterministic and useful. Monte Carlo simulations and whatnot

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

That's the funny bit - unlike rand() which is purelly random with a uniform distribution - a feature which as you point out is useful - and is reliably so, copilot at best has a wild-ass distribution with an the extremelly high dimensionality of its shape which is not even reliable because every time it's initialization parameters are tweaked or any model weights change, the shape of that distribution changes.

It's like they were trying to come up with the thing that's the closest possible to mathematically useless.

[-] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

But what if that is what casinos use to be random?

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I read that some have cameras pointed at a wall of lava lamps, they combine random pixel data, with timestamps to the nanosecond, to generate random data.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 28 points 1 day ago

What, you don't appreciate when your excel function just makes shit up? Weird ..

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I realize this is the wrong community to post it in, but I can imagine it being useful for things like summarization and cursory sentiment analysis, and perhaps for chaotic test data generation.

As with all AI, though, it's a wildly risky tool as it requires the user to understand its limitations and fallibility (as well as the million other issues AI brings with it).

[-] Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I feel like that boils down to "I want a chart, but in words instead of visualization."

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Kind of - it's the step that makes the data uniform and (nominally) useful so it can then be aggregated and reported on.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It has some reasonable use-cases when dealing with text, the problem is that it's extremely easy for idiots to misuse it, either by trying to do math or by not supplying any cells in the optional second argument.

Not requiring the second argument was nuts, and it should probably have refused any query resulting in a number as well.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 31 points 1 day ago

It has some reasonable use-cases when dealing with text

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, those idiots trying to do math in Excel.

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Idiots using a function without understanding what it actually does. Plenty of functions in Excel operate on text.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Or trying to do text in excel?!

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You may not like it, but Excel has long been the tool of choice for people who should really use a database but already know how to use this nice hammer. COPILOT() was marketed as a tool where you could pull in a bunch of text fields and do crude sentiment analysis or summaries of the individual fields, for example.

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