Old school MS would just add some seconds delay to the Mac version.
I want to have to book an appointment every time I want to use a Microsoft product.
Great! I'll just fire up Outlook to put that into my cale oh no
Knowing Microslop™, they'll fix it by loading every document on your computer into memory at boot and call it "Quick Launch"
True Microslop™ behaviour would be to only do this for documents in OneDrive, then tell users to store all documents there for "improved performance"
That just sent a weird shiver down my spine.
And worse, they don’t even care.
My linguistic pet peeve is using compounds to describe a negative.
Twice as slow < half as fast.
Twice as ugly ? Half as pretty
I'm done with MS myself, but at the same time I like to be conscious that news sites are milking the sentiment of frustrated users by constantly rephrasing "MS said they are going to be improve X" into "MS admits that X is bad".
Jokes on you i'm still running word 2007
Gotta load that sweet telemetry
"And Microsoft has no excuse (they'd be willing to admit to).". Those wacky little degenerates and their "back doors". We need serious people back in the tech world again. Men and women of honour, with standards.
They all moved to linux or are bound by golden handcuffs. Source: my entire friend group
I worked with some former Microsoft people. It was ridiculous. So much drama. They were constantly pushing initiatives that made no sense. They cared more about their weird culture than they did about making great products. I think that Ballmer broke Microsoft. His endless stacked-ranking made people focus on corporate politics and resume padding over quality.
So... don't use it?
Microsoft's excuse: 🖕
maybe one day someone can get to the bottom of why it takes thirty seconds to open a local Excel file
Oh but they do- their excuse is incompetence! They have so much excuse. And by excuse I mean they have so much incompence 😀
Legacy code bloat. How much of that macOS code is even from win32 word?
I don't think it's the old code that's bloated. I've been using office '97 at work for... reasons, and despite some bugs it still runs on the latest windows server, does pretty much everything Word 365 does and is much faster.... really makes you think.
Word 97 also has a memory requirement of 8 MB. That legacy win32 code is extremely optimized, programmed in a time where every bit and byte was considered. It's today's background services and applications that slow Windows down, consuming memory and cycles for no apparent reason.
Office apps have also become much slower and less stable since they integrated cloud support and bolted on javascript for the user interface.
I'm pretty sure Office 97 was the last version to not use ribbons or have auto-arranging menus. As a support worker, nothing was worse than those two items. Having to walk someone through clicking a series of static menus was so much easier, could even be done in a doc with optional graphics, and the user might learn something in the process. After those things, there was no standard, anything could be anywhere, and there was no guarantee you or the user would know where to find the thing you were looking for. And they called it progress.
Last I heard the Mac version of word was entirely different code than the Windows program. Different teams too.
But that was a long time ago. Things could have changed especially with the change to subscription/web deployment.
Nah I use office 2013 at work because fuck 365 and it is fine.
12 seconds for a 500-page doc? Are people just that impatient these days? Does everyone have ADHD? People will find anything to complain about.
Not sure how well Moore's law is holding up these days, but considering a typical PC is streaming hi res video these days opening a 500 page text file should happen so fast you don't even notice it.
Modern Windows and many of the core software are pathetically unoptimized, wasting time and resources because as others have pointed out, "fuck you" seems to be the mantra now days.
I dig through a ton of reference material every day for work, and should be able to open a file, control-f to the relevant information, and close it again as fast as my fingers can type.
Yeah somehow the other guy fails to see how that 12 seconds lag with freaking Microsoft Word will correlate with bad performance in other areas in Windows too. FFS, even the Win11 start menu has horrible optimization issues with CPU lag spikes. Oh no! It's gotta be my ADHD though!!
Waiting 12 seconds for simply opening a word document is the tip of the enshitification iceberg. I would say "slippery slope" for this example here, but we are looonngggg past that point now. Don't use windows!
Windows 11 recently had to start enabling some kind of turbo CPU mode just to open a right click menu on files, because otherwise it took more than 5-10 seconds. Same with File Browser.
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-11-low-latency-profile-cpu-boost
They are extremely incompetent.
I had to use Teams for a week because of a second jpb I do occasional contracts for, and it was baffling how extremely worse has it gotten in the last two years.
Three times! It has happened that the teams would load (after going through login loop twice times for some reason) that it would load and show everything as usuall. Only after like three hours of waiting for answer I've noticed that my message actually didn't send, without any error or indicator, and that everyone's, including mine, status is "Undefined" and nothing works - messages don't send, just appear sent, and I'm not getting any messages.
The only indicator was that everyone's status dot was a hollow grey circle, and that messages did not have the sent checkmark but just a hollow dot next to them. Even refreshing did not fix it and I had to relog it for it to start working.
After working a job in a place with no MS office suite, etc, I can attest that yes, you do grow extremely impatient. Now it takes me like 30 seconds to open Microsoft office - in my old job we'd use slack for most our communication and even when we'd open Gmail it would be 2-3 seconds. Markdown docs would open in less than a second. So after this job where everything was instant it was super frustrating to go back to Microsoft products. It's not only having to wait that's annoying, for me it's especially that I'm unable to stay in a state of flow.
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