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[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 148 points 5 days ago

Explanation if any of our foreign cousins want it.

Tea, short for tea time.

In the South you used to (and still do) have the following three meals a day:

Breakfast, lunch, dinner.

In the North, however...

Breakfast, dinner, tea.

Both might tie the end of the day off with supper too. Brunch is for the jobless middle class and wandered into the conversation with yuppies in the 80s.

There's also a tea break, which is usually just a cup (or mug if you are a ruffian) of tea. Not to be confused with tea time, where you might reasonably expect to eat your dinner.

Then there's high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

I hope that clears things up.

[-] mr_satan@lemmy.zip 70 points 5 days ago

I hope that clears things up.

Not really. You had me in the first half, tho.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Right? I'm clearly far too American to understand. I'm more confused than I was before.

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 25 points 5 days ago

Dinner, as the main meal, used to be closer to midday in agrarian times, with the evening meal being a light supper. Only the industrial revolution, with workers spending most of the working day in the workplace, changed this.

[-] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

Where my family’s from, that naming convention is still used.

Breakfast - first meal of the day

Dinner - midday meal

Supper - evening meal

Lunch - a small snack with no specific time

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[-] OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 days ago

Then there’s high tea, which yes, features tea. Often a pot and almost never a mug. It frequently comes with anemic sandwiches and perhaps a scone.

Wrong way round.

High tea is/was the working class term for an evening meal as it was had at the table, and it would usually include cooked meat.

Afternoon tea is the posh one in the afternoon with the cucumber sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 days ago

British people:

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Is that like how every soft drink is a coke in the American south?

[-] Oppopity@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

There's morning tea which is a light meal between breakfast and lunch.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And there's tea time, which is dinner, and also tee time, which is a golfing thing.

And there's also the long dark tea time of the soul, which is a book by Douglas Adams

[-] GiveOver@feddit.uk 36 points 4 days ago

Why is this usage of tea so confusing for everybody? We re-use words all the time in English. It's a very simple concept. Imagine if a musician asked about the key of a song and everybody was like "KEY? LIKE A CAR KEY? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SONGS DONT HAVE KEYS! IVE NEVER BEEN SO CONFUSED IN MY LIFE"

Up north we say "tea" for evening meal. That's it. Explanation sorted.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 47 points 4 days ago

Terrible example and it's just demonstrating that you can't put yourself in someone else's shoes for even a moment.

You understand that usage of tea because you used it your entire life, someone who hasn't would rightfully be confused.

[-] GiveOver@feddit.uk 16 points 4 days ago

Ok it was a deliberately silly example for emphasis. Here's a real example. I went to Australia once and in the airport somebody referred to my Mentos as "lolly". To me, lollies are on a stick. Apparently not to aussies. It threw me off for half a second, but that's it. Confused is an overstatement.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 14 points 4 days ago

Yeah but the context clues are a hell of a lot easier there. You're holding an object, and if someone called it a chupa-chupa or a sucker most people would be able to put that together pretty easily

Now imagine you're going through stretches and someone walks in and is like "oh, playing football are you". You could be preparing to go outside and play football... But you're just stretching

I think most people would be confused by that unexpected second meaning of a familiar word

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago

Imagine you are cooking a chicken. Your flatmate walks in, sees what you're doing, and says, oh, are you making coffee?

You wouldn't be just a little bit confused at first?

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[-] tutter 7 points 4 days ago

bruh because it's confusing that a meal is named after a beverage, it's not the double naming that's confusing

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

But when my Irish friend wants to smoke a cigarette, everybody loses their fucking mind.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 17 points 4 days ago

If they didn’t want to have tea, why the fuck were they making it at tea time?

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I suppose hot chicken broth could be considered a tea?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

Careful with that kind of thinking! If you don't watch out, you risk entering Salad Theory territory 😬

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There also was a contemporary nuncheon "light mid-day meal," from noon + Middle English schench "drink."

https://www.etymonline.com/word/lunch

It's fucking beverage all the way down in English.

Bonus:

BRIBE. Lunch'd O dear! Permit me, my dear Mrs. Prattle, to refresh my sponge, upon the honey dew that clings to your ravishing pouters. O! Mrs. Prattle, this shall be my lunch.

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[-] Hupf@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago
[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Have I been confused this when time? If I get invited to have tea am I being invited to a meal? I thought it was like getting coffee.

[-] Pipster 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Offer of a hot beverage:

  • Would you like a tea?
  • How about a tea?
  • (Shouting from kitchen) - Tea?

Even less ambiguous if cuppa/brew etc. is used Typically only offered in the morning or afternoon if you have just 'popped round'.

Offer of dinner:

  • Would you like to stay for tea?
  • Come round mine for tea
  • Have you had tea yet?
  • Oh you should stay for tea

Typically if you you weren't intending on staying or are being explicitly invited over.

Don't see how any of this could be confusing at all to people not born into it with innate understanding 😅

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

OK, I thought I had a good handle on Tea. I was wrong. T(ea)IL

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

As a yank, it's because you're saying tea where the correct phrase uses coffee /s

But for real, it's because over here we offer dinner to mean dinner, and coffee to mean "no obligation to sit through a meal or anything, but please come over/stay a while longer. A coffee can turn into a dinner, but it involves the intermediary offer of "I'm getting kind of hungry, would you like to stay for dinner?"

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[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

When Ringo Starr told me that a goat ate the Fat Controller's hat for tea, I knew something was up.

[-] Sunschein@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago

Well, according to British Standard 6008 (ISO 3103), the preparation of a liquor of tea requires a tea leaf.

I don't know why I have that knowledge in my back pocket, nor the urge to share that information, but there you go.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Apparently some Australian families refer to the midday meal as "dinner" instead of "lunch" which I only learned after hesitantly sitting down for "dinner" at 1pm.

[-] filcuk@feddit.uk 7 points 4 days ago

Very common in the UK too. Lunch is dinner, dinner is dinner, dinner is tea, tea is also a specific type of afternoon meal (scones and sandwiches).
Even then, people will just say something like 'morning tea' instead of breakfast.
It's a linguistic war zone.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

And if you want actual tea, you ask for a 'cuppa'

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[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Back in the day, the noon/midday meal was called dinner also in the US. Particularly in rural areas. And for some of us boomers it's still dinner. Growing up on a farm, Breakfast was 6am-ish thing after chores were done, (you could sneak in some jelly toast before chores if you weren't to lazy to get up early enough), the noon dinner, and you always came home to eat it, was a full meal deal because you had spent your morning often doing heavy manual labor. Plus your afternoon was going to be no different. You got lunch a 4pm because supper was a 7pm-ish meal, (often heavy on the "ish" part depending on what went wrong during the afternoon).

We evidently didn't get the memo about changing dinner to lunch until much, much later. Besides, we would have needed to rename "lunch" to something else for the 4pm break. I still call the noon meal dinner to this day. You can call it whatever you like, because I don't sweat those details.

[-] Nautalax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

My great uncle got embarassed over this early on in his career. His boss invited him to dinner on Saturday and so he showed up with his wife around noon since that was the typical understanding in his home region. The boss thought he was crazy and told him off for arriving hours earlier than expected.

They still call the midday meal dinner and the later one supper, though I say lunch for the middle one and use the words dinner & supper interchangeably.

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[-] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago

What the fuck.
Have never heard anyone call lunch anything other than that, unless it is a tradie who might say 'smoko' for lunch or a 15 minute snack break.

Aussie terms for meals:
Breakfast/brekkie
Morning tea/smoko*
Lunch (or brunch if its ~9-11am)
Afternoon tea/arvo tea*
Dinner/Tea
Dessert/Sweets*

*morning/arvo tea are primarily for social sit downs and would be like biscuits/scones and a cup of tea/coffee (having a cuppa with friends/family, small meetings with clients, retirees with nothing better to do)

  • dessert/sweets is if your having something after dinner, like some pie/crumble with ice cream, pancakes, etc)

Also 'entree' is a small course before the main meal in dinner, the USA confused the fuck out of me when i visited.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Apparently, your entrées are our appetizers :)

My Aussie friend mainly had problems with remembering our egg doneness "sunny side up" and "over easy", i'm unsure of what her proper terms were for it.

[-] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, an entree is also known as an appetiser, as per the definition of the word ;)

We would say sunny side up here too, but we would probably more commonly just say 'flipped'.
And i order myne "cooked through" or "flipped and crucified", because i really prefer theres no runny yolk unless its mi goreng or over steak tartare.

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I’ll have a muffit of tea

[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

While you sit on your tuffit?

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