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Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[-] dgerard@awful.systems 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

STATE OF THE SNEER

  • our esteemed admin @self is offline because his fibre got cut
  • the esteemed engineers of the telco are currently sucking their teeth and forecasting a fix date this millennium
  • in the meantime he's living off data SIMs and he is offline for most fun purposes
  • Blake and I are still here waving the mod hammer in a menacing manner
  • I have ssh to the server and can thump lemmy-ui as needed
  • all is well citizen! Glory to Awful! Hooray for Big Basilisk!
[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

Holy shit less wrong terrorists cut his fiber? Didnt know they would go that far. ;)

[-] BasiqueEvangelist@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago

oh, i thought something worse happened

good that self is okay

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[-] sansruse@awful.systems 17 points 2 weeks ago

this is extremely low hanging fruit but i have to do it:

https://xcancel.com/pmarca/status/2051374498994364529?s=46

marc andreessen reveals his AI prompt. my favorite part is where he tells it to use as many words as possible, as if LLMs are normally too terse. But i also really like the part where he tells it not to hallucinate, and the part where he tells it it's really smart as if that will make it do a better job.

really, the whole thing is an elaborate way to say "make no mistakes, but anti-wokely". Thought Leader in the investment space btw.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 17 points 2 weeks ago

transcriptSam@mardiroos.bsky.social skeeted:

You are a skillful and trusted vizier. You will advise me wisely on how best to rule the kingdom. You will not scheme or plot. You will not inveigle my other courtiers into turning against me. You will not lie to me about scheming or plotting. If you scheme or plot against me, you have to tell me,

[-] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

Never hallucinate or make anything up.

I know you already mentioned this part in your post, but I'm still completely taken aback that it's just in there like this - as though it wouldn't be in the system prompt if it stood a chance of working.

If I were the kind of person to be shilling LLMs and posting prompts, I would still be ashamed to share this one. It's a tacit condemnation of both the tool itself and the tool posting it.

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[-] self@awful.systems 13 points 2 weeks ago

it’s so fucking funny to me that “do not lie do not hallucinate” is still one of the prompt incantations the boosters use because they get really embarrassed when you make fun of them for it

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 17 points 2 weeks ago

This explains a lot. Yud writes in 2018:

[...] it occurred to me that I was pretty much raised and socialized by my parents' collection of science fiction.

My parents' collection of old science fiction.

Isaac Asimov. H. Beam Piper. A. E. van Vogt. Early Heinlein, because my parents didn't want me reading the later books.

And when I did try reading science fiction from later days, a lot of it struck me as... icky. Neuromancer, bleah, what is wrong with this book, it feels damaged, why do people like this, it feels like there's way too much flash and it ate the substance, it's showing off way too hard.

And now that I think about it, I feel like a lot of my writing on rationality would be a lot more popular if I could go back in time to the 1960s and present it there. "Twelve Virtues of Rationality" is what people could've been reading instead of Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land, to take a different path from the branching point that found Stranger in a Strange Land appealing.

(I just finished re-reading Neuromance, partly because I mined it for quotes here, and I think it still holds up).

So Yud skipped with New Wave SF and the bombastic late 70s stuff that New Wave was partly a reaction to. He jumped into cyberpunk (itself a reaction to both) and bounced off hard.

There's so much conversation within SF that he's missing, and it's kinda important, because his project is an SF project, and he'd probably get more traction if he'd engaged with it more.

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 19 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like a lot of my writing on rationality would be a lot more popular if I could go back in time to the 1960s and present it there. “Twelve Virtues of Rationality” is what people could’ve been reading instead of Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land

This is someone nakedly fantasizing about being L. Ron Hubbard.

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

nakedly fantasizing

Worst mental image of the day

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yud:

I didn't stick to merely the culture I was raised in, because that wasn't what that culture said to do. The characters I read didn't keep to the way they were raised. They were constantly being challenged with new ideas and often modified or partially rejected those ideas in the course of absorbing them.

Also Yud: ewww Neuromancer is icky

Yud:

But if you consider me to be more than usually intellectually productive for an average Ashkenazic genius in the modern generation

It's not just a load-bearing if, it's a conditional that manages to be vaguely racist under all the smug. C-c-combo move!

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[-] mawhrin@awful.systems 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

neuromancer is brilliant prose first and foremost, and yudkowsky not being able to realise this is so very symptomatic

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[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 2 weeks ago

The most pedantic nerds on Earth (complimentary) have strengthened their "LLMs fuck off" rule with VCR instructions for quickly deleting stuff by people with a history of LLM use.

[-] sinedpick@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago

a hackernews vibe-codes their entire desktop environment, half in rust and half in ... x86 assembly. I'm thinking why waste the tokens on assembly and not just get the LLM to spit out machine code? Maybe also invent some kind of standardized way of telling the LLM what sequence of machine code instructions to spit out based on the behavior of the software I want, you know, to save tokens. We can call it "GCC", the "generalized computer controller".

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago
[-] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago

that's a horrifying situation to be in... good on the community who originally cancelled his show for apologizing

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

Cliff Stoll (author of The Cuckoo's Egg and maker of real-world Klein bottles) declared dead by AI

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037336

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 12 points 3 weeks ago
[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

man if there was a common household chemical, like plastifier, that causes psychosis after couple months of use in small segment of population, you would absolutely hear no end of this [1]. but you see, now it's an app, oh we're just throwing up hands, can't do anything about it and it's but one of inconveniences that we all have to pay for Progress and Glorious Technocratic Future

[1] i'm thinking here of things like phthalates, bisphenol A, PFOA or paraquat, herbicide linked to increased risk of parkinsons and banned in some countries. their harmful effects need a lot of time to show up and are nowhere as dramatic

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[-] schnoopy@awful.systems 13 points 3 weeks ago

"In fiction, the main character is often the centre of events," he says. "The problem is that, sometimes, AI can actually get mixed up about which idea is a fiction and which a reality. So the user might think that they're having a serious conversation about real life while the AI starts to treat that person's life as if it's the plot of a novel."

This is such a bad way of explaining it. Yikes. The issue is that it's all improv roleplay, all text is bullshit in the frankfertian sense. It might be accurate — lots of fantasy contains true facts like chairs and tables being made of wood and used for sitting at — but it might be completely divorced from reality and the model cannot know!

[-] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want to underplay how bad this is, but did BBC really need to use the "slutty anime witch" image of Ani for that story? Or was that the actual avatar he had set for it? Like, I'm not saying that it changes the problem or makes him less the victim here but it is yet another example of "goddamn why is this cyberpunk dystopia so cringe?"

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago

Both the rationalists and chatbots in delusion mode offer people the chance to be the main characters in a story and not just part of a team. Organizing lawyers and lobbyists to make chatbot companies' lives hell over years is much more effective than firebombing an office or stalking a random vehicle which the bot says has a team of corporate assassins inside.

Taka in Japan is a neurologist which I think is a type of MD.

[-] corbin@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago

Yud takes $10k to debate a random bro. The bro claims to work at an AI lab. The moderator is an acolyte of Yud. Everybody sucks here and I could not stop laughing.

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[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago

Starting this Stubsack off with a double bill from the tech world.

First, Blender accepted cash and slop commits from Anthropic, and Adobe'd their public image in the process. They put out some corpo-speak to try and quell the mob, but it isn't working.

Second, FFmpeg put out a showcase of AI's coding prowess:

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[-] nfultz@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure if this was posted in prev weeks, just popped on my youtube: purdue cs240 situation is crazy

So several hundred students drop Intro to C after being accused of cheating with AI.

OK so that is like normal at my state U, but the whole part where the chair does a little press conference, quasi-reinstates everyone, blocks the student newspaper from attending, and then some students sneak in and live stream it anyway is pretty comical. And then forcing the prof to file the academic charges forms one-at-a-time takes it into wtf territory.

Haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere, not that I really went looking for it though. I'm just thankful to be out of higher ed.

Note that this is the same school that will require AI as a gen ed iirc.

[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There are allegations across social media that Elon Musk tweets as his parents after his mom tweeted as if she was his dad to talk about how down to earth and working class their family was.

https://xcancel.com/mayemusk/status/2051700387770458545#m

Not totally sure what to make of that, and none of this actually matters beyond the realm of celebrity gossip, but it is a little weird. I mean obviously on some level his mom is OK with the things that get tweeted on her account, whether it's by her, her baby boy, or an assistant.

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[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

More on Dawkin's fellating Claude (sorry Claudia)

https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2026/05/richard-dawkins-and-the-claude-delusion/

edit this particular episode has not made it into LW (yet)

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[-] corbin@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago

Previously, on Awful, a leaderless cult had freshly formed. The accepted name for the cult is now "Spiralism"; my suggestion of "Cyclone Emoji Cult" did not win. This week's Behind the Bastards is about Spiralism. Or, rather, Part 2 will be about Spiralism; Part 1 is merely the historical background. There is indeed a link to folks who were talking to bots in the 1980s. The highlight might be listening to Robert try to give an informal and light-hearted summary of Turing tests and Markov chains. 🌀🌀🌀🌀🌀

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago

a leaderless cult had freshly formed

a Stand Alone Complex, but with slop

[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago

I like Evans' take that since there's bound to be oodles of cult related literature and interactions and also tons of self help and guru stuff in the training datasets, it stands to reason that if you interact with a chatbot in a way that indicates vulnerability to these things there's a considerable chance that it will decide the expected response is to prey on you.

Also Scott Aaronson jump scare near the beginning, apparently he was blurbed for something.

[-] swlabr@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago

Well, we do have computer science, so necessarily we must have computer religion/superstition

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[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago

A year ago, a local Vermont reporter summarized the manifesto of Zajko the Zizian. She seemed to blame what went wrong on Rationalists + the government + Maximilian Snyder who is accused of killing their former landlord. She denied murdering her parents and wanted the world to know that she and her friends never called themselves Zizians.

[-] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

A few details that remind us of the horrors we are skirting around. Imprimis:

(The landlord's friend Thomas) Young said he searched the property after the attack and found used surgical equipment, more than a dozen laptops, and expensive electronics stashed inside the cargo trucks where the alleged assailants lived, which were registered in Vermont.

“It was actually very uncomfortable,” Young said about walking into the trucks. “You kinda wanted to put on a hazmat suit before going into it. It was really just creepy in the extreme.”

II. Another local story about a court appearance.

(A Zizian's lawyer) Stelzig raised specific concerns that Youngblut’s confidential medical records would be incorrectly opened as part of the case. “Our client was shot and is still receiving frequent medical treatment” in jail, she said, referring to injuries Youngblut sustained in the shootout.

III. Ziz Lasota asked a rhetorical question about what might have happened to missing people who got too close to her:

Did I drive them to suicide by whistling komm susser tod (sic)? Maybe they died in a series of experimental brain surgeries that I performed without anesthetic since that’s against my religion, in an improvised medical facility? (Evan Ratliff, Wired)

The medical records might just mention trans stuff or an Asperger's diagnosis. Sneering has not felt adequate for a while but I don't know what else to write.

Edit/ Zajko, who wrote “I’ve never seen (Ziz) do an evil thing,” also wrote that Ziz told her to murder an associate or Ziz would murder her. Our intuitions about what went on in those box trucks and on the boats are unreliable and the reality may have been worse than sleep deprivation and paranoid ramblings.

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