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[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 267 points 1 month ago

Resistive heaters still suck though because Heat pumps give you 200-400% efficiency. So heating wise, “100%” still less than maximally efficient.

(Not a violation of thermodynamics btw. Heat pumps use electricity to move heat energy that already exists, so the electric power in is often significantly smaller than the heat coming out of the device)

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 402 points 1 month ago

Did someone say heat pumps?

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 164 points 1 month ago

I'm so happy this man nerded out about heat pumps for a few hours.

But now, all I see is inferior heaters.

[-] rockSlayer 69 points 1 month ago

It's the burden of knowledge

[-] M137@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago

Having been on long term sick leave for 15 years means you have to do something with your time and I spend a lot of it learning new things to various depths. I now understand why some (though not all) older people are angry: when you know a lot about a lot you see how bad many things are. There's so much inefficiency, shit design, shit quality, shit shit everywhere. It hard to not let it get to you.

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[-] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

And this one is….. 1600 watts. Surely this “large” room heater will be……. Siiiixxxxteen hundred watts.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago
[-] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 44 points 1 month ago

Bro's got multiple, hour+ long, videos about various types of heat pumps.

[-] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 28 points 1 month ago

And somehow im riveted. Doesn't feel like droning on. I wish I could communicate like him.

[-] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

Hours of videos about dishwashers too

[-] UninvestedCuriosity@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

This man taught us that heaters are indeed about as efficient as you can get in turning energy into heat through a little thing called resistance.

[-] Custard@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Hey that's the guy I see once a year at Christmas time!

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[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

His videos are why I got a heat pump water heater instead of a standard one when mine died. I figure in summer I can hook the exhaust duct up to my hvac and get a bit of free air conditioning out of it, since I don't have AC yet. Tiny extra bonus piped straight to my bedroom.

[-] mceldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I came here to see a picture of this man.

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Resistive heaters still suck though

  • Resistive heaters are much more portable and flexible. (edit: and quiet)
  • Resistive heaters are a viable backup when heat pumps fail in extremely cold weather.
  • Resistive heaters are less money upfront for if you only have to use them occasionally.

One is not directly beneath the other. Both have their place.

[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, do we need to extend this heater solidarity to combustibles as well?

I mean technically they’re infinitely electrically efficient if you don’t use electricity to start them lol

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago

For niche cases like when you're on a camping trip and made a campfire

[-] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 16 points 1 month ago

Strictly speaking that's not efficiency, but a coefficient of performance.

And funny enough the work energy doesn't even have to be electricity. It's actually mechanical energy, that is required and you could even power a heat pump with a steam or diesel engine.

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[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 1 month ago

Every electric device is a heater. Some just do other things too.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 month ago

A brushless motor only converts ~5% of its input to heat. That's low enough that you can reasonably call it a side effect.

Now, a computer, that's a heater that happens to produce math as a side effect. 100% of its input ends up as heat.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

math as a side effect

That's a funny way of spelling porn

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[-] lonefighter@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

I love firing up my PC and gaming on cold winter nights. A well placed fan or two and I can spread it through my entire apartment and the heat won't kick on all night. Ends up saving me money, my heater costs way more than my PC to run.

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[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 month ago

Also a question of optimizing its use

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[-] MashedTech@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

100% efficient!!! You're using all the energy to do meaningful work!

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A completely valid pannini press, imo.

Like this is literally the 'modern problems require modern solutions' meme.

I've used older PC battlestations of mine as 'bonus' spaceheaters more than once, lol, sorta like those 'pocket warmer' apps for phones that would just run some absurd computation that would redline the cpu, hahah!

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[-] antsu@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 month ago

I'm not well-versed on this topic, but doesn't the AC frequency cause alternating fields in the heating element, making it vibrate slightly? If that's correct, then you're losing an incredibly stupidly tiny amount of energy as sound too.

[-] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 month ago

Even sound energy eventually ends up as heat, though!

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 16 points 1 month ago

And that satisfying glow is losses as light, which will do some heating, but not as efficiently

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 12 points 1 month ago

There's a whole class of electric heater that do this intentionally. Radiant heaters are awesome for outdoor patios and other spaces like uninsulated garages where you care more about heating surfaces than the air itself.

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[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 39 points 1 month ago

Isn't some energy still dissipated as light instead of heat?

[-] Noved@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago

Which travels to a location, hits it and is eventually converted to heat.

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[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

When light is absorbed by surface, the material temperature increases and remits light at a longer wave, ussually in the IR spectrum. So its safe to say all light is heat enegry.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep, every electric device is a toaster, some are just super inefficient at it.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

Remember: Every device is a smoke machine if you use it wring enough.

Also: Every electrical device is filled with smoke and the job of electricians is to stop the smoke from escaping, which would render the device useless.

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[-] cass27@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago

Noise would be a small but non-zero form of heat loss that shouldn't contribute to temperature increase

[-] dz2@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago

Noise would turn in to heat as it’s absorbed, so it’s just heat with extra steps. Same deal with lights

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago

The entropy machine has a 100% efficiency

[-] starik@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago
[-] weastie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Yup, that little buzz / hum is technically lost energy

[-] bebabalula@feddit.dk 27 points 1 month ago

Well, if you want to go all “technically” on this, then that sound technically dissipates as heat when it is absorbed by the interior of the room.

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[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Even if the heater's energy partially is not wasted by a sound, it certainly is by generating magnetic field.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

A heat pump will drop to 100% efficiency in cold enough weather.

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[-] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 17 points 1 month ago

induction losses:

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Software engineers fixing a prod-down bug on Friday afternoons operate at 100%

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[-] JATtho@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Power-line losses before your house, so a electric heater is only 96%-85% effecient. When the heating for bird feets is accounted, it's 100%.

[-] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Blaming the heater for losses in the power lines doesn't seem fair.

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