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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

You mean it wasn't smart to change the ending from the book that was the gut punch the entire book was leading up to, making the book memorable?

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago

Aka, money is more important than challenging people to think, so, pander to morons and make more money.

[-] bufalo1973@piefed.social 15 points 1 day ago
[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

What about them? I don't see the analogue

[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 4 points 17 hours ago

Apparently, the original idea was for humans to be used for computing power, not as batteries. But they were worried people wouldn't understand that so changed it to batteries (which makes no sense). Something like that. The similarity is in dumbing down the concept

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

I see the confusion. In this article we have a situation where the audience wanted a worse idea. In the Matrix example, the audience came up with a better idea (computer power makes more sense than batteries). So it's the reverse scenario.

But from your "Apparently", I'm guessing you are not aware that's it's a long debunked urban legend. It was always supposed to be batteries. It just makes so much sense for it to be computing power, that the urban legend was really captivating.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Actually just made some comments elsewhere on lemmy about that lol.

Now you're understanding hollywood!

[-] Janx@piefed.social 49 points 2 days ago

It's such a weird heel-turn when Will Smith slaps the zombie and tells it not to talk about his wife.

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Huah huah huah, they referenced that thang wit real life, clever movie huah huah huah.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let's see: thin skin, contributes nothing, and actively makes a throwaway joke worse... Mr Smith!?

[-] KenOh@feddit.online 32 points 2 days ago

My favorite part about this is the 1964 film The Last Man on Earth starring Vincent Price avoided using the same name as I Am Legend because they felt they were taking too many liberties with the story, when it is hundreds of times closer than anything since.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 83 points 2 days ago

The ending to the book is one of the best reveals I've read/watched. The movie discarding it was such a huge disservice.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 days ago

On this topic: The Hobbit movies.

What the fuck?

I’m rereading the book for the first time since childhood. They retconned all of Thorin’s character traits and Bilbo did not play for time to save them from the trolls.

It’s frustrating.

[-] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 45 points 2 days ago

The animated Hobbit movie is infinitely better than the live action abominations the studio created.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The animated are undeniably better than than the entire series, just based on music alone.

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[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago

The second to last paragraph of article is the most important. The mythos of the alternate ending has grown so much in the 19 years since the movie has been released that people ignore its flaws.

The Alternate ending doesn’t fit the movie at all and the folks that claim the theatrical ending is so different from the book make me laugh.

Everything in the movie is different from the book. The only thing that the I Am Legend movie has in common with the book is the title and the name of Smith’s Character.

Every other aspect is different right down to where it all takes place.

The mythos of the alternate ending has allowed people ignore the idiocy of the alternate ending. Why would Smith be allowed to live? If me and a bunch of my buds had a monster who had been terrorizing us for years captured in his torture chamber basement, the torture chamber basement that had dozens and dozens of pictures of my friends that the monster had tortured to death, I would tear him to shreds. I sure as hell would not allow him to live happily ever after.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago
[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

It is insane how time flies!!

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[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Yes, the movie has a version of infected fast zombies. The book had vampires.

Also, I didn't think the main character of the book was monstrous. The other book characters should not of thought that either. The vamp faction that caught him was actively hunting other vampires that were not part of their faction, so no one should have been shocked.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

The book had two types of vampires, mindless ones that wiped out humans who were then wiped out by thinking vampires that had built a society.

To me the main failing of the movie was that it used CGI “zombies/darklings”. Good lord they looked so terrible on screen. Why the hell the movie didn’t use actors and actresses in costumes and makeup is beyond me.

There is a lot greatness in the movie that gets overshadowed by the endless posts about the alternate ending. Sam is one of the best on screen depictions of Man’s best friend ever and the sequences with Smith scavenging around NYC are great.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Absolutely!

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[-] wax@feddit.nu 22 points 2 days ago

Test audiences kills authenticity and memorability

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

I disagree.

Authenticity?

The only part of the I Am Legend movie that is authentic to the Novella is the title. Every other part is different. So the movie never had authenticity.

Memorability?

The only reason anyone talks about the I Am Legend movie is because the movie did not use the alternate ending.

The test audiences are what has kept the movie on the front page of movie message boards for 19 years. The discourse over the theatrical ending v the alternate ending is why a sequel is development.

The best thing that ever happened to the I Am Legend movie is the test audiences.

[-] wax@feddit.nu 1 points 6 hours ago

Fair enough, haven't watched I Am Legend, so can't comment on that specifically. There's quite a few examples of movie endings being changed from the script after test audiences have watched though. The contract of Brad Pitt in Seven stated that they couldn't change the ending, but sure enough, they wanted to do it.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

There are many examples where the test audiences and the much maligned studio interference greatly enhanced a movie.

One of the most famous in scenes in Jaws is when Ben Garner’s gnawed on head came threw the bottom of the boat. It was put in place because of test audiences.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

(Smith) claimed “it was the only movie I’ve ever had that the audience booed.”

Somehow Wild Wild West escaped booing.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Well you need an audience to boo…

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Fuck you I loved Wild Wild West. I mean it probably helped that I was a kid watching it on VHS, but it's still a very fun movie.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was one of the biggest flops and he turned down the Matrix to do it lol

[-] illi@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago

Which is why we have to thank it every day. Can you imagine?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I actually do think the matrix would've been a worse movie with will Smith. He is not a good actor.

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[-] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Well that's easy to explain, wild wild west was a masterpiece

[-] Schmookey@retrofed.com 2 points 1 day ago

To be fair it was a fun movie if you were a kid and the soundtrack was great.

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[-] JMorningstar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Probably something to do with the majority of the country having an IQ below 50

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 13 points 2 days ago

When i don't understand a movie, my first thought is: i'm too dumb. A focus group's first reaction always seems to be: the movie is dumb.

[-] Fluke@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

Because they're in a focus group, so they are clearly more intelligent than you.

(/s, natch)

[-] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago

I just remember watching the movie, then finding the alternative ending (only the last couple minutes) and realizing the polar opposite naritives.

One is where he becomes martyred fighting the enemy, the other is realizing even when others are different, we are still able to relate and find peace.

So yeah, whoever made that decision ruined the entire movie.

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

They pandered to the test audience in the hope of making more money, versus ignoring them and making a better movie.

And what the heck was wrong with that test audience, anyway? Personally I love when a movie manages to throw a clever curveball and challenge my expectations.

Says a lot about the world in general that people want to 'pick a side' and then dislike anything that challenges their support for that side.

[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Well. If you have 50 people help you pick an ice cream flavor. You're gonna get vanilla.

[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 14 points 2 days ago

IMO you cannot make a focus group for art. I Am Legend had a choice; try to be art or try to be mindless entertainment. By making the focus group dictate the movie they decided to back down from their artistic vision in order to please mindless drones who didn't want to be challenged.

Sure, I would probably also be upset watching that twist for the first time, but it would have got me thinking. I'm more of an exception that I don't rate movies on the first go, but for most people that's what they'd do. The focus group only gets one chance to share their feelings and it's one of challenging their core beliefs resulting in being upset, a negative feeling. Hence a negative rating.

But all movies aren't supposed to be feel-good movies. The absolute best movies in history makes us think. Have you ever seen Wes Anderson or Robert De Niro or the like change their vision bases on focus group feedback? No, because they know the first impression and thus first feeling might not be a positive one and thus inadvertently translate to a negative rating.

There's a balance though, sometimes an auteur needs a reality check, take Coppola's Megalopolis for example. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I heard he kinda went off the rails on that one. We have yet to see if it makes us think down the road, but maybe he needed someone to say, "you know, this doesn't work." But not from hundreds of random movie enjoyers. From experienced film creators who know to look deeper. Writers, cinematographers, gaffers, sound mixers. People who know their craft and can say "this has been tried before and didn't work." Or if you're feeling adventurous: "we've never tried this before. Let's see if it'll stick."

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

The difference is perhaps that people like Wes Anderson have both faith in their vision, and a track record of success in their distinctive style that together provide the clout to resist meddling.

If Wes Anderson says "This is done, we aren't changing a thing" then it's done.

I can only imagine in Legend there was big pressure from execs to make changes after the test screening, not because they thought the test audience was right artistically, but because they were worried about the impact on the profit margin.

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[-] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I am currently reading the book to my 12 year old daughter.

I can't wait for her mind to be blown. Its not "Sci-Fi"...

But its totally Sci-Fi in that it challenges your morality and the way you see the world

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Test audiences are we have slops that try to appease everyone but end up disappointing everyone but still have broad enough viewership to make millions.

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