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[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 165 points 4 days ago

"Threatens." Oh, they mean "proposes as an alternative."

Fuckin' NYT.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 29 points 3 days ago

Threatened makes him sound way coolerI

[-] petrol_sniff_king 8 points 3 days ago

Honestly, it does.

[-] ChadGPT2@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

yeah. status quo bias

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 337 points 4 days ago

This is how you do it when you're serious about achieving what you promise for your constituents. Use your tools as needed, demand cooperation, when you don't get it, use your tools as leverage. Even if you fail, people see you did what you could and then they're ready to punish whoever stood in your way at the ballot box. This is why the oligarch class is so afraid of Mamdani who's just a mayor.

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 101 points 4 days ago

I'm a NYC resident, and I pay property taxes. If this is the stick that will (hopefully) get us the carrot of a wealth tax, I'm all for it. If property taxes end up going up, and we can use it to make the city better with the services Mamdani wants to get going, well then let's go. I will figure out how to pay the additional taxes somehow. With that said, let this be a bargaining chip. Working with the rest of NYC's political class is like a bunch of toddlers. The best thing you can do is give them two options, one you want (which they won't like) and one you don't want (which they really won't like). And make them pick. So they feel like they have agency, it's their decision, don'tchaknow?

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[-] homes@piefed.world 37 points 4 days ago

It’s a little bit misleading to refer to as any mayor of New York City as “just a mayor“.

[-] Asafum@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago

It's just a tiny little financial capitol of the world with a measley population of only 8.4 million people.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago

Barely as large as Austria

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

If NYC was a state it would be between the 11th and 12th most populous state.

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 54 points 4 days ago

And California is the world's 4th largest economy, behind only the entire rest of the United States, China, and Germany. New York State would be 8th.

The Democratic states and cities are economic and sociopolitical leaders for a reason. Don't listen to the bullshit calling them socialist hellholes. The evidence suggests that taking care of your people (and maybe even having illegal immigrants too gasp or better yet legal immigrants) is actually an economically sound, and maybe even economically preferable strategy overall.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

Illegal immigrants are one of the strongest boosters of the economy, since they are a source of cheap skilled labor. You’d have to be totally stupid to intentionally throw away that advantage.

I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce.

[-] deadmyk@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago

I love when people say the us should get rid of CA. Yeah let’s just throw away the worlds 4th largest economy because you’re anti woke 🙄

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 107 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Its so funny the NYT has like half a dozen quotes about people opposed to the tax hikes but not a single one has presented a real idea for alternatives.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Why can't we just continue as normal and keep pushing the problems down the road for someone else to figure out?" - New York's comfortable masses who are already older than dirt and have no stake in the future, and basically all of America's financial policy for the last hundred years.

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[-] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 23 points 3 days ago

Please tax the people taking us for a ride as much as possible

They've had it too good for too long.

It's not just the billionaires.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

"I will tax the rich, even if I have to tax the poor to do it."

[-] Tuxis@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This statement and the article title are disingenuous. Mamdani wants to avoid increasing property taxes and drawing down city reserves to balance the budget here.

New York City is legally required to balance its budget. This is the reality of that.

[-] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

And this will also still affect more wealthy than not as it’s not poor people that own multiple properties, or even one property.

Ideally I guess you could apply this kind of thing to anything that isn’t the primary residence or base it on size.

But I don’t profess to know the ins and outs of property management in general let alone in New York.

[-] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

If a rich person own a building where they are renting units to the average joe making the median wage, they pass the cost of that tax increase down to the renters; which makes it a regressive tax in a round about way.

[-] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You can use that circular logic for all taxes. If a CEO pays more taxes they are just going to make up for it by raising prices or cutting employee wages

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago

"We are either going to get the money from the fat cats or from you. Your choice.". I'm waiting on pins and needles to see where the money comes from.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 days ago

Both of those hit the fat cats

[-] zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

I mean property taxes and wealth taxes are essentially the same thing.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 12 points 4 days ago

Only if the wealthy have their money invested in real estate, right? If they're invested in stocks and hedge funds and such, then a property tax increase isn't going to cost them as much as a straight up wealth tax.

[-] MrsVeggies 10 points 3 days ago

Someone owns the property where the factories are built.

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 69 points 4 days ago

Better pass a rent freeze first or that property tax increase will just get passed on to the people who can afford it least.

[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago

He's working on it. Link

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[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

It's as if he's right.

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[-] Entertainmeonly 12 points 4 days ago

You use the carrot or the stick. Using both at the same time makes no sense.

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The suggested 9.5 percent increase would affect more than three million single-family homes, co-ops and condos and over 100,000 commercial buildings, Mr. Mamdani said as he delivered his preliminary spending plan.

The mayor acknowledged that his proposal would not merely force the wealthy to pay more taxes, but would also be a “tax on working- and middle-class New Yorkers,” and stressed that this was not his first choice.

Welp.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

Too bad Billionaires' Row is already cutting out a big portion of that tax revenue with a loophole.

https://youtube.com/shorts/IlNFgf-2PRQ

[-] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Solution is to tax the land instead

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