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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 340 points 1 week ago

This is how you do it when you're serious about achieving what you promise for your constituents. Use your tools as needed, demand cooperation, when you don't get it, use your tools as leverage. Even if you fail, people see you did what you could and then they're ready to punish whoever stood in your way at the ballot box. This is why the oligarch class is so afraid of Mamdani who's just a mayor.

[-] cybervseas@lemmy.world 102 points 1 week ago

I'm a NYC resident, and I pay property taxes. If this is the stick that will (hopefully) get us the carrot of a wealth tax, I'm all for it. If property taxes end up going up, and we can use it to make the city better with the services Mamdani wants to get going, well then let's go. I will figure out how to pay the additional taxes somehow. With that said, let this be a bargaining chip. Working with the rest of NYC's political class is like a bunch of toddlers. The best thing you can do is give them two options, one you want (which they won't like) and one you don't want (which they really won't like). And make them pick. So they feel like they have agency, it's their decision, don'tchaknow?

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] JTode@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Don Tchak never! The dude is completely corrupt, and I hear he has some very nasty sexual proclivities.

[-] homes@piefed.world 37 points 1 week ago

It’s a little bit misleading to refer to as any mayor of New York City as “just a mayor“.

[-] Asafum@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago

It's just a tiny little financial capitol of the world with a measley population of only 8.4 million people.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

If NYC was a state it would be between the 11th and 12th most populous state.

[-] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 54 points 1 week ago

And California is the world's 4th largest economy, behind only the entire rest of the United States, China, and Germany. New York State would be 8th.

The Democratic states and cities are economic and sociopolitical leaders for a reason. Don't listen to the bullshit calling them socialist hellholes. The evidence suggests that taking care of your people (and maybe even having illegal immigrants too gasp or better yet legal immigrants) is actually an economically sound, and maybe even economically preferable strategy overall.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Illegal immigrants are one of the strongest boosters of the economy, since they are a source of cheap skilled labor. You’d have to be totally stupid to intentionally throw away that advantage.

I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce.

[-] deadmyk@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

I love when people say the us should get rid of CA. Yeah let’s just throw away the worlds 4th largest economy because you’re anti woke 🙄

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

You can also casually remind people that more Republicans live in California than Texas, which usually makes their head explode. It's an enormous state, with a huge economy, with tons and tons of people.

[-] homes@piefed.world 14 points 1 week ago

People like that are willing to do or say anything in order to get validation for their shitty beliefs

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The population of NYC is larger than the combined population of the smallest 28 countries in the world.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Second largest city in north america?

[-] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Uh doesn’t this just inflict pain on the middle class if it ends up passing?

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

Does the middle class own property in New York at all? I thought most just rent apartments.

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

And you think land lords won't pass increased property taxes on to their tenants?

I don't live in NYC so I won't give an opinion on this but landlords won't just eat increased taxes.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

No, in a market like NYC rents are already the maximum that the market can bear, and a lower percentage of property prices than elsewhere. Landlords in fact will eat at least part of the increased taxes because the only other option is to not rent the property. That's exactly why they're so upset about it.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Property taxes are paid by the renters. Landlords don't have any money other than rent. This is a tax on tenants with extra steps

[-] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

NYC is 5 boroughs a lot of it is single family or 2 family housing.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I ask because l don't know. From pictures, everything in NYC are buildings..... I thought houses didn't start until long island

[-] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It thins out as you get away from the center.

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Most people dont make over 1,000,000 a year. A millionaires tax, like the one passed in Washington state, only taxes 9.9% of every dollar OVER ONE MILLION. The first million has the same tax rate as everyone else.

They still keep 90.1% of every dollar over one million. It is not as if it is forfeit. They will still be making a shit ton of money.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Talking about the property tax, not the wealth tax. And even though it’s lower than other parts of the country, a third of NYC denizens own their homes, so a property tax increase seems like it’d have a lot of collateral effects on the not-so-wealthy.

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I feel you there. Washington state has no income tax, so there are so many levers we can pull to raise revenue. Property tax is one of the big ones. Every time I get a ballot to vote on, there is some new levy they want to add. I generally vote yes, because I want schools to be funded and parks taken care of, but it does get to a point where our tax system is regressive.

Wealth taxes make sense. Those who can afford to pay a small amount more should step up. Mamdani's plan of raising taxes on wealthy New Yorkers by -2%- is even less than what was passed in Washington state.

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