They aren't struggling with comprehension, they are being deliberate about misrepresenting the facts.
Most likely both
Yeah, they (OP or whoever told OP about it) probably started reading the paper with a predetermined conclusion and read until they found the data that "supported" it.
They "did their own research"
Yeah, this. They don’t want to know facts. They are actively resisting reality. Doesn’t matter that ~40 people per million per two doses had adverse effects to the vaccine and most likely recovered just fine while hundreds of thousands got sick and died from the disease and who knows how many survived because they were vaccinated.
hundreds of thousands got sick
An estimated 7 million deaths since 2020. About 250 deaths a week in the US on an ongoing basis. And that is just deaths, not serious sickness or long term consequences after being sick.
who knows how many survived because they were vaccinated.
We dont know, but we can estimate. COVID-19 vaccinations averted between 1.4 to 4 million deaths during 2020-2024.
This is a hobby with flat Earthers, MAGA, and antivaxxers. They make weird shit up and then pretend to believe it. Numerology. Conspiracy theories. They dont think there is any harm in it and like to troll "the libs" and debate them to waste everyone's time. The bad thing is that you get a portion of them that start truly believing these tales ... we have a few dozen holding US offices now.
Yeah, we should invent new words for this, they aren't stupid, they weaponise stupidity for their own gains.
That word is disinformation
They know it's a lie, they're posting it anyway because they think the ends justify the means
i remember the days before conservatives antivaxxers took over the sub, right befor trump was elected. you can actually have a conversation with them, without having them doubling down.
The sub's mods deleted the comment too. I see it's every bit as much of a cesspool as it always was over there
You know the paradox of tolerance? The idea that if you believe in tolerance, then you have to be intolerant of intolerance.
I think this general concept is applicable in many areas. Like, it makes sense to be nonviolent except in preventing more violence.
And in this case, we should all make a giant conspiracy to destroy the places where conspiracy theorists talk to each other.
The paradox disappears the moment, you handle tolerance differently.
Handle it like a social contract that everyone is automatically part of. All are tolerated until they stop tolerating people who are also part of the contract.
Whoever stops tolerating people who are part of the contract loses their "being tolerated privileges".
Lol
i remember the days when anti-vaxxers or conservatives hadnt taken over the sub. before it turned into a full political conspiracy sub.
Top 1% poster and a top 1% commenter. Reminds me of the quote: "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes"
I made a post recently, wondering what we could do to get a larger userbase on lemmy. Many people kept saying "why larger? This size is good", even though I stated my reason for wanting a larger userbase in the OP.
This post, right here, also shows a benefit of having a larger userbase and something I miss from reddit: actual research scientists coming to the comments explaining the paper and whatnot. I think decreasing the distance from research scientists to the general public is a good idea. And I want them on lemmy. I would love for lemmy to be a little bit less memes and a little bit more... Serious.
But a larger community also means people like that conspiracy poster coming here and degrading the quality of the conversation. It's a double edged sword. I think we should encourage quality user growth over just quantity. Of course, that's easier said than done. But my point is that growth in and of itself is a poor measure of success: we want growth of competent users.
Ok, but having more than 3 responders per post in less common communities would be great. Like, not even the writing or art comms get more than that.
Of course, I don't disagree. I just want to encourage us to seek good comments. You could fill the comment section with 100 low quality posts and it wouldn't meaningfully improve things.
Sure, as long as we allow good comments with opposing views. We don't want just an echo chamber filled with good comments. It might sound good but it isn't healthy long-term.
wait what is reddit then?
Reddit is a link aggregator and forum. There's no hard line for how many characters is too many to be a microblog, but Reddit's 40,000 for a post and 10,000 for a comment is plainly disqualifying.
Edit: Oh, but Reddit is also a meme. Case closed; I retract my objection. /s
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A meme is an idea or phrase that catches on in society and becomes commonplace. It's not a word invented with the Internet. Any "meme" that hasn't spread into a widely known idea or phrase is not actually a meme. A picture with words added to it does not automatically make it one.
Funny, but probably not very fitting to this case, as luckily non of the children in the study pool died:
Across all analyses, there were no COVID-19-related deaths, and fewer than seven COVID-19-related critical care admissions.
That plane should have gotten the chicken pox vaccine!
This sums it up perfectly.
Why hidde the usernames? It proven the if someone wants to find it, they will.
If one person wants to find it there's no problem. It's when a whole bunch of people all think they've been given license to brigade a thread and start cyberbullying someone that things get unpleasant.
Here is the study under discussion:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40985520/
And here is the reddit comment thread:
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1qdxa5z/17_million_children_were_studied_the_results/
And just in case anyone wants it - not that there is much value in it - here is the link that was posted on reddit:
https://x.com/ValerieAnne1970/status/2011141377095246302
Cheers!
I was in the hospital with myocarditis after recieving the first shot. Got better after a long recovery. Got the second and third shot as soon as I could. A little hospital times seems worth it when the alternative is permanent brain, lung and heart damage.
Why are dates removed… to make sure this can still be posted in 2056…
Yup. Have to farm that karma.... I pointed out a bot account yesterday and got hounded with comments like "yeah? and? and? so what so what?" followed by a ton of downvotes on my other comments
Probably bots programmed to respond to comments that say "bot account"
I thought the "1hr/35m/23m" were the timestamp. Isnt that how reddit does it? Does it actually show hard dates in new forums?
I'm pretty sure you can hover the mouse over to see the hard date/time. I don't believe the image was altered to hide that info. However, the usernames were removed, so that's why it does look doctored.
Post is from 2026-01-15T22:01:15Z, comments are from 39 minutes after, and the next level another 12 min after
I think this could also be generalized into something like "Conservative struggles with colors other than black, white"
i had covid-19 recently , in sept the extremely painful sore throat, i believe it partially triggered my background atopic dermatitis an early flareup.
Covid has been linked with all kinds of immune, inflammation and skin issues. Recently there have been investigations into a possible correlation of people with AD and increased risk of infection and/or symptoms. I'd say trust your instincts. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40219685/
1.7 million children were studied.
No they weren't. This is statistics.
Their cases were studied, not the children themselves.
I read myocarditis as my comida at first and got really confused as to why fictional mushroom people were being referenced in a study
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