don’t let the bubba news overwrite the fact that they are using the actually its ephebophilia method of excusing sexual abuse now
e: oh and also the steve banon stufs wowow
How long until they pull out “well the Greeks used to do it”?
He's a POWER bottom, the most POWERFUL! everyone knows this.
"I powarred the most bottoms.. I am the powerest of all the bottoms. They would say, Donald, you are the best bottomer I have ever seen.."
Actually Mac, you've got it backwards. You see, the power bottom is actually generating the power by doing most of the work.
Wait, what happened with Bannon?
in the latest email releases it’s almost undeniable that Jeffrey Epstein was acting almost as an unofficial advisor to the US president Trump through Bannon
ephebophilia - Primary adult sexual attraction towards late pubescent or postpubescent adolescents
aka, pedos trying to pretend it's not as bad when they abuse minors
Exactly, you can try to "well, actually..." your way around it all you like but if you're making that argument you're still a pervert who wants to molest kids
In the sense of being shot 20 vs thirty times, sure. And maybe we should punish them like that. Use a nicer less coarse rope when hanging them.
The difference is actually important. Pedophilia is a mental disorder which may or may not result in harm to children depending on whether it's diagnosed and treated properly. Ephebophilia not a disorder. Ephebophiles are people who choose to rape young people for fun.
I strongly, strongly dislike the way you are framing pedophilia. All CSA is based around the vulnerability of the victim. Child sexual abusers are aware of what they are doing. No one is driven by such strong compulsion that they must sexually assault someone. It's exactly as evil and wrong no matter the age of their victim. All CSA is wrong. All sexual abuse is wrong.
just want to say thanks for this sensical, well-worded comment. :)
Being a pedophile and being an abuser are not the same thing. Many pedophiles are disgusted with themselves, and one of the criteria for diagnosis is a sense of distress arising from inappropriate attraction. Some willingly live full-time in mental health facilities to ensure they have no access to children. It's ableist and harmful to non-offending pedophiles to be conflated with rapists. I firmly believe that it poses an increased risk for CSA as they feel they need to hide their disorder instead of getting help and support.
It's exactly as evil and wrong no matter the age of their victim.
That's kind of my point. Insisting that someone who rapes a 15-year-old is a pedophile comes with the implication that it would have been less bad to rape them at 18.
the beginning part of the comment is already iffy/barely fine but this paragraph…
…comes with the implication it’s less bad to rape them at 18
no it doesn’t imply that. that’s such a weird leap; it’s a really blatant misrepresentation of what’s actually going on, holy shit. it comes from this habit of centering the aggressor’s identity or “how bad they are” instead of looking at what consent law is actually designed to do.
please do some research on the basic principles behind statutory law and child psychology. statutory age doesn’t exist to rate rapists on some “less bad vs more bad” scale; it exists to protect vulnerable young people.
it’s not “who’s worse,” it’s “does this person need automatic protection?” and the age of consent (depending on your state) is the line where society says that the answer to “does this person need protection” is always yes; not because the victim below that age “counts more,” but because anyone that young can’t legally consent, period.
as an example, if your local age of consent is 18, it doesn’t imply it’s “less bad” for someone 18 to be assaulted. both cases involve victims who deserve care and safety; the difference is that the law gives full, immediate, unequivocal protection to anyone 17 or under based on what we know about human development.
i genuinely hope this is helpful, because this pattern of defining consent law around the aggressor’s identity rather than the safety and protection of the victims is exactly where these misunderstandings come from.
I don't think I understand what you mean. Legal age of consent and the definition of pedophilia aren't related. If the age of consent were 9, it would still be a disorder to experience primary attraction to people that young. Similarly, if the age were 25, it would not be pedophilia experience primary attraction to 19-year-old people.
You really don't think the Republicans defending him from the label of pedophile aren't motivated by the thinking that raping small children is worse than raping teenagers? People often seem downright enthusiastic about the idea of child abusers being raped and beaten by other violent criminals in prison, who seem to be considered the good guys by comparison.
exactly. “definition of pedophelia” isn’t related to the age of consent at all. the identity of the aggressor doesn’t matter when the victim 100% needs protection in all cases.
people who defend sexual abusers use whatever arguments get them their way. republicans also use whatever response gets them power. and my response is to call them violent and abusive for drawing a line in a space where we know that consent isn’t even an option.
once again, try centering the victims of sexual violence rather than Epstein et al or their primary attractions. primary sexual attraction is not my primary concern; first and foremost i care about preventing the perpetuation of mass sexual violence.
So like I said in my previous comment, no one is driven by such strong compulsion that they must sexually assault someone. Being a pedophile is not a sexual orientation it is literally a desire to commit sexual violence. If someone told me "I am so driven to commit acts of sexual violence against rhe vulnerable that I am voluntarily putting myself into a mental health facility" my first thought would be that I hope they are being involuntarily held.
Pedophilia is not a disability. No i am not being ableist by directly correlating pedophilia with rapists. They are literally obsessed with rape. They see children as a means to an end for their personal sexual gratification. I would react to someone saying they are a pedophile the same way as if someone told me they desperately want to sexually assault someone.
Being a pedophile is not a sexual orientation. It is not a sexuality.
No one said that pedophilia is a sexual orientation; it's a mental disorder. Sexual orientations are not mental disorders.
Being a pedophile is not synonymous with abusing children. Those suffering from pedophilic disorder are capable of not harming children, just as those without pedophilic disorder are capable of sexually abusing children. The disorder and the act of harm are different things.
You can think of it like drug addiction. The urge to use the drug is there, but you still get to choose whether or not you act on it. Choosing the right thing is a lot easier with professional mental care and community support.
Ideally we want to identify and help every pedophile before they abuse a child, and we can't do that if we conflate them with rapists while they're still innocent.
As far as I know, pedophilia has not been classified as a mental disorder and is not recognized as such by any major health organization. It's more likely to be a criminology classification like psychopathy.
Both the DSM-5 and ICD-11 list diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder.
Ephebophilia, of course, which they think is okay and fine.
Wait, isn't Bubba old enough to consent? He seems so old but if Trump puts his mouth on a person Bubba can't be that old.
Sometimes you experiment outside your type
I dunno. Coulda been when Bubba was little. Fits Krasnov's MO
Isn't that just life in Chicago?
Came here to express this general sentiment.
That’s our drone striking boy.
Once again. MAGA was right.
I keep coming back to this and giggling
He probrally still isnt the throat goat, I feel like his sloppy is low quality
"i'll show you how not gay i am" - donald trump
Damn, looks like Trump finally took the W 😔
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