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Why would I buy this? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

So I see this game. Let me sum up what I actually see:

  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start
  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that
  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews
  • 175 euros DLC's: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there's another 175 fees for content?
  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

And they don't understand why people pirate, run away from AAA games and go for indie games instead.

This is just a random example. I've quit playing COD after Modern Warfare.

To end this positively: I recently started playing Necesse which is really nice, and I started playing an old time favorite again after a long time: World of Goo. Both worth my money :)

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[-] kr0n@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. This game was not a good COD.
  2. This game was released in 2021, so it's like if you buy now FIFA 2021 or NBA 2021, nobody is playing it.
  3. The 175€ DLC is just cosmetics. Cammos for the weapons, skins operators and so on. Not needed.
  4. COD Points are just to buy cosmetics like the included in the 175€ DLC, so it's not pay to win. Just pay to look "cool".

PS: Don't buy this shit.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

You wouldn't. You'd buy Titanfall 2 for a whopping £2.49, and play a great (if short) single player campaign and then delete it.

If only for Effect and Cause, which is right up there with the best levels in any game.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Why would anybody support genocidal imperial propaganda in their home?

I made that mistake years ago with COD. Never again.

[-] cron@feddit.org 193 points 3 days ago

Take a look at the reviews, and find this insanity on the top:

need to be connected to online services even when you just want to play singleplayer campaign, and keep getting connection errors.

Thanks, I'm out.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Bad but

Also

Stupid

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 33 points 3 days ago

So in theory.. you can not even play single-player campaign because of kernel level anti-cheat + internet connection. Even if Wine/Proton would allow you to start the game.

[-] cron@feddit.org 32 points 3 days ago

True. According to protondb, it is not possible to even start the game.

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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

Until the support stops and you have an unplayable game in your library.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Why is it a Penguin stood amidst boulders?

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago

I feel like they could have called CoD Points something other than CP. 🤣

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[-] actualaccount@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

I got Necesse too! It was about 6 bucks. Can't beat that price. Runs on a potato also.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I should play that again, probably start a new world/char because so much has changed since I got it almost 4 years ago.

[-] Lazer365@feddit.nl 60 points 3 days ago

If you still play CoD nowadays then you are actively supporting the problem.

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[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

Reviews are mixed: not a great start

More than not a great start: Only people who have bought the game are allowed to review it, so reviewers are already biased towards liking the game, because only somebody who thinks they would enjoy the game would spend money on it. It's basically impossible to get a strong negative score by just being run of the mill awful. So "mixed" means that about 50% of people who though they would enjoy the game, didn't, which is quite damning.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

When I said this on Reddit I got downvoted to hell and called a hater lol

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It's CoD. You're asking why people drink coke if you don't like coke.

Also, steam FPS reviews are full of people on full tilt. Use better review sources.

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[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 53 points 3 days ago

You are missing the most important issue. It only runs on Windows!

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago

To be fair that icon doesn’t mean much of anything cuz you can just force compatibility in Linux and use proton, you just gotta manually do that in properties.

This is probably windows only because of kernel level anticheat though so it probably still holds up.

[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

What computers and airconditioners have in common is that they become useless when you open windows.

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[-] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

You don't. You play single player games like me and get to experience cool stories instead of dopamine lacking rage inducing PvP games.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

It's for people with more money than brains.

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[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

I took a break from necesse after no lifing it for weeks after I discovered it. Now that it's just hit 1.0 I managed to gift a copy to a friend, and watching him outgrow my hard earned knowledge in a day with some guidance in mechanics was probably the most satisfaction I've felt this year.

Indies are carrying the industry and have been for a long time. Hmu for some necesse.

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

There is plenty of shit on steam that I wouldn't buy, just don't buy it

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

It's not for you, you are not the target audience. The target audience is the people who buy MADDEN/FIFA every year.

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I played Tekken 3 in PSX when i was a kid. One CD had everything, many modes, many characters, ton of fun.

Ffw to 2 years ago, i think to play with a friend Tekken again, searching in Steam Tekken only to see that it has 24 DLCs, many of them that are fighters (game has 16 unlockable characters, and 14 more being paid DLC)...

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[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Bro the CoD ship sailed years ago. They just don’t innovate and release the same shit year after year. Buy something else. I’d recommend Factorio.

[-] mellow@lemmy.wtf 24 points 2 days ago

Quite the leap going from CoD to Factorio tho. 😅

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[-] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

When people may get into a competitive game, data shows that they commit to it as their primary game.

It becomes a part of their identity. You see things like Leage of Legends going strong despite a slow down in new players - people just commit to it for better or for worse, likely because most of the skills they’ve gained in it and friends they’ve made will not transfer to other games. Even other FPS games have different nuances that are non trivial once a player becomes serious about winning.

Take Wild Rift vs Mobile Legends Bang Bang. MLBB is objectively a worse rip off of League of Legends and the Chinese game Glory of Kings, but it was first to market on mobile. Now that League has released their mobile version with immense polish and quality, many mobile moba gamers just aren’t interested - they’re already totally invested in their main game, despite it being proved in court that it’s a cheap copy. (Not cheap as in $$$ though)

When you’re a kid, spending time on any competitive game will be fun (if you can handle the baseline toxicity) since you will start bad at most of them. When you get older there is a real cost to switching, you will not have as much fun until you build up the years of muscle memory that would be needed to even approach your skill at the previous game.

Because of the lock in, if a competitive game finds a sizeable enough player base and lasts a good handful of years, the devs essentially get free rein to milk their cow as they see fit.

[-] gwl 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah it's very simple, you would buy this if you'd made your whole personality about being a GAMER, where you believe that the only real games are FPS PvP War Simulation, and everyone that plays anything else is a poseur.

[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

And even then there's Battlefield 1 which got all the content unlocked now, is fairly cheap, the servers are going strong, and it's really really fun.

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[-] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Battlefield 1 is the one set in WW 1 where everything is muddy and you can't even choose a woke skin

[-] gwl 1 points 1 day ago

Ah but it paints fascism in a negative light, therefore woke

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[-] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
  • Reviews are mixed: not a great start

Agreed, puts a damper on everything else that follows.

  • Requires 3rd-party account: fuck that

Also agreed. If I buy a Steam game, I'd generally much rather it be accessible through Steam and do not appreciate when games are sold on Steam for other platforms.

  • 60 euros base game: expensive, especially when the game has mixed reviews

Not the worst price, but yeah I'd definitely expect a much better review score to justify that price. In the absence of a good review score this would be something I'd have to know I'm going to enjoy before I'd consider buying it full price.

  • 175 euros DLC's: are you fucking kidding me? On top of 60 euros for the base game, there's another 175 fees for content?

I don't know for certain about this particular game, but I do know people were shitting on Monster Hunter: Rise for the exact same reason: a seemingly exorbitant amount of DLC available from release implying it's a cash grab and just trying to milk more cash out of the player.

That being said, in my opinion MHR wasn't even half as bad as the naysayers would have you believe. MHR on release on Steam had a lot of DLC, sure, but it didn't launch on Steam. It launched on the Switch then later was ported to Steam with all of the same DLC they had worked on since its launch a year prior.

Almost all of the DLC was exclusively cosmetic skins, and almost all of those were part of bundles available for significantly cheaper prices than each one individually. I don't recall the exact prices but I believe it was something like buy 10 skins individually for $2/ea or buy all of them in a bundle for $5. The real price for any sane person for all 10 skins would be $5, but this showed up on Steam as 11 DLC items with a total of $25. Multiply this by the 6-10 ish bundles they had on the title's release on Steam to get a huge quantity of items and a massively inflated price compared to what anyone who wanted everything would realistically pay, assuming they paid attention.

I don't know that CoD is doing a similar thing here, and I certainly wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt, but I dislike this argument against them because it can be very misleading.

  • purchasable CoD points: so pay to win?

Not necessarily P2W, but yeah I'm not a fan of MTX either and again wouldn't give CoD the benefit of the doubt to have a good or fair monetization model.

[-] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

This kind of thing is why I dont get excited for steam sales now. Oh, 50% off Recent AAA Game? Haha, yeah, half off the base price, but the entire game is DLC now and each of those is still full price, and there's a dozen of them.

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[-] mcforest@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago

Maybe because there are still people who are not tired of Call of Duty, liked the predecessor and are still looking forward for a sequel and play it with their friends?

Oh wait, this isn't even the newest CoD? Probably they just forgot to update the prices. Probably forgot it even exists because there is a new one.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 24 points 3 days ago

Didn't forget, they just want full price forever.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nintendo Intensifies

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I can’t say I like how /Games often circles around negative attention rather than positive.

Activision spent billions on marketing so people will buy these stupid Ultra Editions. Even negative attention gets people thinking about and talking about the game.

Instead, post about the cool indie games out that you think deserve far more attention than this battle pass slop. Let Activision come check up on us and cry because for all their efforts no one even cares to hate on their game.

Theres an asymmetric game out as a demo, called Carnival Hunt. It has a really unique aesthetic, and isn’t all that fun yet, in part because of the formula being refined and players getting better at it. But I like the idea: Rather than TCM’s idea of unlocking doors towards an exit, the survivors, “bunnies”, are trying to climb the floors of a large building, with each method of ascending a floor requiring various tools and making noise. Some ways up are harder to set up but easier to repeat, others only work if the killer is ignoring them.

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