Maybe, but if it is people will still choose arbitrary boundaries like decades to create categories around even if they aren't bound under some specific properties or common experience, we're social animals and prefer inclusion even if it's just for fun. Regional dialects and accents are diminishing, but there are still linguistic changes happening across large geographical regions for example.
No, not at all. It's just easier to draw lines on where things start and stop once they change, so you may not feel like you're "in" an era.
Fascism sure draws a line in the sand.
I'd call this the "late stage capitalism era".
No, you're just used to things that are going on now so you don't see how it'll look in 20 years. I remember seeing people saying similar things back in, like, 2009
I think eras are less obvious when you're living through them
You don't know what you got till it's gone..
I dunno. The 80s had a very particular vibe. When the 90s came along, it just felt different, even as I lived through it.
I think the 2000's didn't feel that much different than that 2010's.
But yeah maybe it's recency bias.
When the 90s came along, it just felt different
Yeah, that's their point.
I want replying to OP though. I was replying to someone saying that living through an era makes it harder to discern the changes. I didn't really agree with that because the 90s felt different from the 80s, even as I lived through them.
pre-2020 and post-2020 definitely feels like a different era.
(The pandemic and the global shift towards being more authoritarian)
Yeah I'd almost say the 2020s are the best defined era, everything literally changed overnight.
In the late 1970's bell bottoms went out of style.
In the 1990's a different style of bell-bottoms became fashionable again for women in particular.
In the 1990's a popular look was the giant baggy jeans like JNCOs, which were technically a type of "bell-bottom."
In the 2020's, big giant baggy jeans like JNCOs are back in style again.
Further, did everyone forget the entire scene kid/emo kid styles of the early 2000's because that style was very unique and I don't see anyone who looks like this these days.
Haircuts like this were the thing in the early 2000's for women and men until about 2010ish when everyone put their three wolf t-shirts up in the closet and cringed at why they thought being ironic cringe was so great.
Both the 1980's and early 2000's were "skinny jeans" eras.
Just like how the broccoli headed boys are a thing for the 2020's.
And even the broccoli head boys are a natural re-occurence of the permed haircuts in the 1980's
I can think of plenty more examples but these are just a few.
Scene girls were my favorite.
Just had to keep them away from razor blades.
Further, did everyone forget the entire scene kid/emo kid styles of the early 2000’s because that style was very unique and I don’t see anyone who looks like this these days
Oh emo's gonna come back someday. And along with it, I fully expect these to comeback to.
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Very astute and the whale tails themselves were a consequence of the low rise jeans era for women where now we are in a high waist jeans era for women.
Low rise jeans are making a comeback, I bought a couple pair recently because I prefer the low vs high rise, I hate high rise so much. They are definitely not the ultra low rise of my youth, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this style also comes back eventually.
Marc Almond?
Yep, Soft Cell.
Good, thanks :)
Stylistically, I'd give the 2010s to hipsters. Damn I do not miss skinny jeans.
Item and sociologically? The smartphone is now ubiquitous.
Sadly, I think the late 10s + a bit will be known as the trump/covid era. (Or, if things get much worse, the beginning of the end.)
I feel like maybe around 2012 the whole concept of eras died.
It's the end of an era.
Nope, you just can't put your finger on what's distinct now and you lack the contrast of what the future brings.
Hair styles, fashion, design, colors, music, phones and other devices, all of that will be different in 10 years.
Remember, facebook was all the rage in a different era and is now uncool. Same for twitter. That's era defining as well.
I've been thinking about exactly this lately, and I'm open to the possibility that I'm just getting old and just falling into the "everything new is all the same crap!"
But... Imagine what you would wear to a 70s themed party, how about 80s, 90s?
I'm confident three distinct styles popped in your head.
But what about a 2010s party? Sure, some trends come and go, but I don't feel like the 10s party would look much different from a 2020 or 2000s party.
Feel free to tell me if I'm just old.
2000s was very emo-/scene-heavy. Lots of bracelets and mixing of black and neon.
2010s are the best argument for you, probably. It was more of a blend of things 🤷♂️ hipsters and preppy looks got pretty big, but nowhere near as homogenous
2020s will be COVID themed with broccoli hair
All that can be said has been said. All that can be done has been done. Nothing is new under the Sun.
I think you're wrong because there were things unique to those decades, but I think what makes your argument hold weight is that not everyone would agree what was the most relevant, especially depending on what social niche you were apart of.
Post 00s, we have a lot of subcultures and much less of a monoculture for nations as a whole, so you could have, say, a 00s or 10s Anime/Game cosplay night, but if you ask everyone to wear "average clothes for the time" there would be no predictable pattern.
The subculture is a good point. I would not have been paying close enough attention to those to really appreciate their nuances.
You're just old.
Doesn't take much to convince me of that!
Hey we're all old here, ain't no shame in the aging game.
We are probably just completely out of touch with youth culture
Older Gen Z here, it's just a consequence of everyone in a social niche now. There's no one theme to unite them all, so it's hard to picture in your head a theme, although I can think of what I was a part of in the 00s and 10s.
That almost seems changing. TikTok seems to enforce some sense of monoculture now. I’m seeing 67 gestures from people aged 22 to 6.
I’m curious if the 2010s were the most social niche disjointed and we end up moving back to more monoculture (Yeezy slides, ice cream shorts, broccoli hair is a good 2020s representation that I just can’t think of for 2010s)
Nothing ever unfolded neatly by the decade, but a themepark version could be compiled after the fact. It's harder when you can't even talk about "the 00s" gracefully, though. How do you say that?
I'm pretty sure this is a Randall Monroe observation that I'm just repeating. Relevant XKCD, from 2017.
It's harder when you can't even talk about "the 00s" gracefully, though. How do you say that?
The aughts/oughts/noughts/noughties, depending on where you're from.
Yeah, and none of them have really fully caught on. In real life I have to say "two-thousands" to definitely be understood, and even then people misread it as the century sometimes and are confused.
According to Swift, eras just became personalised, and rather than everyone entering a new one every ten years, you enter one after a breakup when you change your hairstyle.
We talking Taylor or Jonathan?
I agree. The 1970s were disco, the 1980s were punk, the 1990s was New Wave, and the 2000's was the 2000's.
I'm old enough to remember Spice Girl mania.
People who never brought a record knew all the songs, because they were played on the radio, and every store and restaurant played local stations. They were in the newspapers and in magazines. They were mentioned on the local news shows.
I've never heard a Taylor Swift song played in public. All the stores and restaurants that have radio play dedicated oldies stations. No new music at all. I haven't watched the local news in years, and newspapers and magazines are gone.
I think you're going to see smaller and smaller groups getting excited by niche interests. You're not going to see Beatlemania ever again.
nah, new wave was very 80s, I'd divide the 90s between grunge and rave
You're forgetting about all of the AI slop
A lot of us still manage to live in the real world and the clothing real people wear and the way they style their hair and makeup isn't really an "AI slop" thing.
If you want to define the 2020's by AI you're self categorizing as "extremely online/terminally online/chronically online."
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