More like 3x my salary, but yup...
The reason they are paid more than you is because they have a skill you will probably never possess.
Through a mixture of selfishness and manipulation they are able to evade ever having to be self reliant. This means they are experts at getting work done through others.
Which, unfortunately, is what management is all about.
Had me in the first half there.
The computer literacy of the younger generations is also alarming. While they're pretty intuitive about using an app's advertised features, they don't seem interested in "exploring" computers and their capabilities like slightly older people.
What I'm saying is that the ability to convert to PDF lies exclusively with Millennials
It's due to the fact that we are the BRIDGE GENERATION ... the generation that lived in a world without the internet or modern technology but got a front row seat in seeing it all come to what it is now. The generation before us were too old to care about the new things that were coming out so they never took the time to learn about it all. We were just the right age to be young enough to be interested and old enough to learn about it. The generation after us have only ever know the modern internet and modern locked in devices we have today, so they didn't have the interest or patience to want to learn about it all. We grew up in a time when computer systems ran like molasses so it was slow enough for us to have an opportunity to learn about how they worked and ran. We learned to tear apart computers and computer parts, put them back together and figure out how to run them. When we couldn't afford to buy the latest software, we became pirates and crackers .. and eventually, we learned to use Linux and open source software while also keeping our foot in Windows and for some of us with a bit more money, a foot in Mac as well. Now the tech world is becoming more and more locked in with software and hardware ... it is getting harder for anyone to see what's inside the box or to even figure out how to take it apart, rearrange it or swap parts or even to adjust anything. Young people just buy a solid state phone and they will never know or want to know what a CPU, RAM, SSD, HDD, GPU, PSU mean ... and whenever that thing breaks down, they just chuck it, buy another one and start all over again.
I mentioned this before in another thread
So many of my millennial colleagues don't know shit. Tell them they can click with their mouse wheel and you blow their minds.
I think it's just about what interests people. And most people on Lemmy are more tech literate and have more tech literate friends in the same age bracket, thus skewing their perception.
Lot of younger gen x did all of that shit, with even less documentation and less mainstream support and community.
There is a small subsection of gen z that is absurdly tech literate and the rest can mostly operate a search engine
I'm older Gen Z and I notice the same. I'll ssh to a computer across the house rather than go turn it off manually, and my friends use tik tok for their search engine. Its an ever widening gap too since things have become so convenient for the uninformed.
Oh wow you are indeed a lot smarter
The same is actually true for millennials as well. And gen X and boomers. As if it was a specific skill set one can learn.
I once had to (try to) explain to a millennial how to type an URL into his browser's address bar. To him, Internet and Google were literally synonymous. To this day, I can't get over it.
3 years ago i gifted my (then 6yo) son my old computer and basically left him alone to figure out(with parental controls). Whenever he wants to do something complex he asks me, but he is learning stuff on his own. I uninstalled YouTube (it had a shortcut on the desktop. I just removed it) and he figured out how to browse to it. The other day he remember a browser game he liked so he googled it and then asked me how to scroll down to see the full game.
I hope this becomes a real useful skill that is not forgotten once AIs can do everything and we probably interact by voice commands
Even with millennials, I feel like there's a big chunk who still barely have any understanding. At least I assume most know a file system exists (ie know of folders and such), but most would think it's synonymous with the gui software they use to explore it and would have no idea how to even start navigating it by command-line or even imagine it's possible to using an alternative interface to the one that came with the OS. Whereas younger gens that grew up on iPhones that hide the file system would have no clue. And the older generations frequently just used the desktop for everything.
I just had this exchange with my few years younger girlfriend who counts as a zoomer:
Me: So go into the Canon app and select from there the file you want to print
Her: ...
Me: (showing on the phone) So go there, and now just browse for the file.
Her: uhh...
Me: Where did you save the file?
Her: I don't know.
Me: Uh, so where is it?
Her: In the PDF app
She's really smart, she uses Linux, she laughs about some of her same age and younger friends not having a clue about files and folders and stuff but phone is where this happens hah
To be fair, phone OSes go out of their way to obscure where files go for some reason. Android's filesystem is somewhat arcane even when it's completely transparent, and it's mostly hidden behind apps that just say "Saved" or "Downloaded" and I'm left asking "okay but where!?"
EDIT: I suppose it's not necessarily the OS's fault but more of the app culture
People should install a good file explorer like Cx, it actually shows where the files are....i also use it to access my nas and stream video from there.
That's honestly quite interesting because all around my presense I hear a lot of sw engineer guys my age or younger.
Like outside of my computer engineering uni, one of my dancing teacher is aspiring to learn coding, I hear guys talking about software dev stuffs on my bus occasionally and such. I'm 24 for reference, so that's just barely gen z tbf
As a Gen-X, I taught my millennial son how to build a computer (and he knows much more than me now). I assure you I know how to find where on the menu to convert to PDF. I also know how to do it via something like Gimp, or other tools. I also know when to not convert it to PDF. :p
From my observation there is a rare subspecies of gen xers who are frighteningly good with computers and by that I mean they cause me the biggest headaches and then there is the ultra rare gen x pc god who will flex their powers at every chance.
Shoutout to that dad who helped us find and fix an error in our spf record 😅
Yanno I thought about ending my post with "of course there's exceptions for every generation", but I thought as much would be common sense and could be assumed.
My father, born in the 50's, is also very tech literate, but his existence doesn't mean there's not a trend with boomers to be technologically challenged.
Real. It's almost painful to watch some people struggle with such simple things while I'm literally coding my own utilities for fun
Today I had to explain to an a linesman (electrical infrastructure technician) what a website was.
He could not get the concept you could just go to a website and he kept googling stuff which doesn't work because I wanted him to go to an intranet site
Well, were you able to repair a high voltage line? There's stuff that was very easy for him that you also don't understand.
Just out of trade school, or old as the trade itself?
I think he was around when the electron came into existence and the dawn of the universe.
Reality check: you don't make boatloads of money for having useful skills everyone has (or should have). You make boat loads of money when you have useful skills that few people have.
Reality Check: You make, or don't, make boatloads on money based on your social skills, and your status at birth.
You can literally map zip codes at birth to salary.
Reality check: your relation to capital determines how many boat loads of money you make
The useful skill of being born rich so you could go to an Ivy League School.
Instance doesn't check out.
I just assumed it was some new refugee who landed on the flagship but nope, two year old account that's been dodging .ml State Security somehow
Or just be born into a rich family. Not sure that counts as a skill really.
Been born into a rich family and then murdering your way to your inheritance without getting caught, now that's a skill.
So you believe we live in a meritocracy? I find that staggering at this point.
what illiterate upvoted this grift?
20 upvotes and 16 downvotes. Crazy work.
The useful skill of being able to sack hundreds of people to make a few dollars for shareholders and still be able to sleep at night.
Or, in simpler terms, a lack of empathy.
That is definitely not true when everyone seems to have that one horror story where they have an incompetent coworker a level above them.
I was driving limo and the CEO client (who I knew quite well, client-wise) spent the first 30 minutes of a trip on the phone insisting that his original password be restored, as the 'system' was insisting it be changed.
He told me he has to repeat this every 4 months...
To be fair, simply forcing users to create a new password every X weeks is bad security policy.
It is and it's actually not even recommended best practise to change passwords anymore precisely because of this. It hasn't been considered best practise since I think around 2016-17 so businesses are really lagging.
If you get governmental contract work and pretty sure not resetting the passwords too often is actually now part of the security requirement but outside of that businesses just do what they think is best regardless of research.
It's actually even outright discouraged by NIST.
For those who don't see the reason why, forced password resets lead to users using predictable passwords like "password2025october", "password2025november", etc.
Yep. Back when I was being forced to reset my passwords every 90 days, I needed some way to remember the new password, so I developed a strategy like that. Whatever beverage is currently on my desk plus @ plus the time. Water@1257, for example. It's so nice to have the option to randomly generate a strong password these days.
my four shitty boomer bosses dont even know how outlook works, let alone basic excel. they all make six figures.
Was in a "meeting" yesterday being confronted with this and I finally lost it on the guy. He told me I was being very unprofessional, raising my voice at him. Me? How about you asking about things that were taught on day one repeatedly and not retaining any of the answers I have given you in all my futile efforts? There is no fucking way in hell this guy would be qualified as an entry-level direct report to me after four decades in industry. I finally realized that level of wilful incompetence, in addition to posing as a colleague, adds up to stolen valor and complete disrespect and dishonor for those of us who put in our 10,000 hours 30 years ago.
It is unprofessional to raise your voice in the workplace. His incompetence doesn't justify your attitude.
I never got to attend school beyond high school but I've been able to get by in many things. I know quite a bit of technology, I build my own computers, used to tweak, adjust, maintain, fix and install/uninstall/reinstall my Windows software all the time ... I've kept just about every electronic device I've ever owned over the past 20 years - and they all still function. Now I've moved onto Linux and open source software and now enjoy spending my time tweaking, testing, destroying and playing with it all as much as possible in my spare time.
Meanwhile, I have a couple of friends who are the same age as me and they came from well-to-do families who helped them go through years of university and now they're doctors, lawyers, dentists, teachers and administrators.
They have a ton of training and schooling .... yet I'm the one they come to for help when it comes to their home computers, work laptops and any electronic device. When they can't get my help or I'm not available or I don't have time, their usual solution to electronic problems is to throw the thing away and buy something new.
The disturbing part of seeing them throw away old devices, laptops and desktops is that no one ever thinks of wiping or destroying the drive. I've picked up so many old drives, laptops and devices that still have so much sensitive data on them its unbelievable.
I think doctors and lawyers needing help with their computer is fine. That's the "I have a deep knowledge in this specific subject at the expense of not knowing much outside of it."
But I'm more interested in knowing how you do your testing? Is it some super specific set of hardware / software? I ask because sometimes I have an issue and I don't know if it's some mixture of software packages or versions or hardware, or maybe I just found a bug and should report it.
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