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Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

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[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 149 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.

All because the Dems didn't want to "seem political". Mmmmkay.

The world is laughing at us.

[-] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 month ago
[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

I'm Canadian and I'm quivering in fear

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Well a bit in the beginning because of the absurdity, but yeah, now it's just sad and terrifying.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago

Because the Dems are just the same billionaires but in blue.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

People need to realize that Trump is 50 years in the making. He was not the first to put "undesirables" in camps and arrest people based on racial profiling. He's not the first to give tax cuts/subsidies/bailouts to the rich while the cost of living gets progressively worse. He's not the first president to bomb countries without Congressional approval.

These trends are accelerated by Trump, but will continue after he's gone because they are systemic.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not sure how this is the dems fault, but okay.

Trump is hitler stupid, and it's the dems fault.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 62 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure the specific blame the above commenter is referring to, but I blame Democrats for two things.

  1. They failed to recognize and truly fix systemic problems because the actual solutions aren't market-oriented.

  2. They dragged their heels on prosecuting Trump when he was out of power long enough for him to escape any liability and ultimately establish... this.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

JFC, do you really think that peace for a long time led them to believe that the republicans would go full on nazi? No one thought this would happen to this extreme. Stop fucking blaming the victims, which is the American people.

Trump and his republicans are NAZIS.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No one thought this would happen to this extreme.

No, it was actually pretty easy to imagine when:

  1. Trump told people to "find votes" for him;
  2. Trump had himself pre-emptively certified as the winner in some states; and
  3. Trump used stochastic terrorism to incite a riot outside a government building, as a response to his impending loss of power.

All of that screams "power-hungry facist", and the predictable outcome of someone like that regaining legal authority, obviously, is an attempt to transition towards fascism so they can retain that once-lost power indefinitely.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago

And he told people they'd never have to vote again. And Project 2025 forecast what would happen if he won but people wrote off that publicly available document as a delusion of the left

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Also, The Annoying Orange told everyone he'd be their "retribution". If people heard that and were confused about what that meant for most of the country, I don't know what to say.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 35 points 1 month ago

A lot of us thought this would happen if Trump won again. I don't think any of us thought it would get this bad this quickly, but definitely within his 2nd term.

Just to be clear, when I say I blame Democrats, I mean I blame the Democratic party, the Democrat leaders (Pelosi, Schumer, etc), and their apparatus. I can see how you thought I was blaming voters, but I assure you that's not what I meant.

And yes, I agree. The GOP are officially fascists by virtually any definition of the term.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lots of people foresaw this and tried to warn everybody and we were written off as irrational fearmongerers

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

I mean, I've been calling it since around 2012.

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[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

The Dems put 'decorum' before sanity. The DOJ in the new admin should have gone hard after Trump and his henchmen on January 21 2021.

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Because the Dems allowed open treason to fester. Trump literally should have been executed for crimes against the state.

Instead he was let off with zero repercussions and allowed to pardon the insurrectionist mob. Terrible consequences have ensued and will continue on.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

There is no low the Republicans can stoop to that won't result Murc's Law being a thing.

The Republicans could be at the shoving people onto trains phase and there will still be a certain type of individual trying to blame the Democrats for not stopping the Republicans...

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If a gang of criminals is causing trouble all over town and nothing is being done to stop them, I'm gonna be mad at the criminals and also mad at police, prosecutors, and judges for not doing their job and stopping these people

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[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Why don't all criminals just run for office? They can't be sentenced then, that would seem political

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Oh no no, you misunderstand.

You must also be rich and white. It's not political to lock up poor or minority political candidates, even if they aren't criminals.

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago

The White House expects that any potential invocation of the act would be met with swift legal challenges and ultimately land at the Supreme Court.

So, an unsigned 6-3.

[-] SnotFlickerman 51 points 1 month ago

Or more likely bumping it back to a lower court while only addressing one small part of the issue, while making no stay on the behavior so they can continue while it takes years to wind through the courts and eventually not matter when they have already usurped power.

[-] Pondis@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

Civil war is looming more and more everyday. If I was American I'd be so scared and angry right now.

[-] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 50 points 1 month ago

Can confirm, I'm terrified and furious

[-] LadyMeow 28 points 1 month ago

Yup.

Terrified, angry, disappointed, despondent, hopeless, disgusted, in disbelief.

So many fun emotions! 🩷

Note: if you are FBI and reading this: insert the next floppy labeled ‘how much of a great, capitalist loving, good Christian ~~fascist~~ ultra nationalist I am’ to learn more!

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[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I am apoplectic my pancake brother.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Looming? It's already happening. National Guards have invaded blue cities.

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[-] Redditsux@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure Trump is going to use it by 2028 or just before it, in a prelude to declaring martial law. Right now they are trying to escalate conflicts in order to have justification. When they don't have it, I assume there will be false-flag operation to trigger one (see January 6th).

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

They'll time it for 2026 if they're ready. They can't let Dems have an ounce of power to preserve democracy

[-] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

There's absolutely no way he lives to 2028.

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

From your lips to god's ears my friend.

That reminds me, where the fuck you at god? You're just gonna let this bullshit continue?

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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 1 month ago

Right now they are worried about the 2026 midterms. As unpopular as Trump is, they will be a bloodbath for the GOP. There is no way they wait for 2028.

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[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

This gives me such revolutionary war vibes. The "fathers of the revolution" were not revolutionist, they did not want independence from Britain, but wanted thier legal rights upheld. The monarchy feared what they might do and so sent soldiers after them labeling them as revolutionist. Thier message then became one agianst the monarchy, tensions continued to escalate and well, revolution.

There is not an insurrection, there is not armies of rebels fighting to bring down the federal govermemt.... but start a war agianst people and eventually they will stert defending themselves, then we will have a war.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Did anyone else see that weird interview on CNN with Steven Miller clamming up à la Mitch McConnell after he mentioned that Trump would have "plenary authority" i.e. dictatorial powers?

Unless I'm mistaken, plenary authority is granted to the president when the Insurrection Act is invoked.

So... Is this an attempt to push that through quickly now that the cat is out of the bag?

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

That movie "Civil war" was very optimistic in hindsight

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago

And that's how the 2025 US Civil War will begin.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Americans won't do shit (they are currently being fucked and are cheering this on). You are delusional.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Depends on which state, hence civil war between blue and red states

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

he's scared of a damn frog.

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[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
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[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Tell me you want a General Strike without telling me you want a General Strike.

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