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Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Did anyone else see that weird interview on CNN with Steven Miller clamming up à la Mitch McConnell after he mentioned that Trump would have "plenary authority" i.e. dictatorial powers?

Unless I'm mistaken, plenary authority is granted to the president when the Insurrection Act is invoked.

So... Is this an attempt to push that through quickly now that the cat is out of the bag?

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Tell me you want a General Strike without telling me you want a General Strike.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The irrational behaviour of ICE and the deployment of national guards is clearly setting up to agitate and provoke the ordinary Americans into drawing first blood to justify invoking the Insurrection act. Don't fall for this my American brothers and sisters. You don't want to be the Southerners this time who attacked Fort Sumter.

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago
[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Biden. Too late, but at least we gave a shitload of money to big construction companies.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 19 points 13 hours ago

And that's how the 2025 US Civil War will begin.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago

Americans won't do shit (they are currently being fucked and are cheering this on). You are delusional.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Depends on which state, hence civil war between blue and red states

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Still won't happen. The child rapist in chief has done many shitty things -in general- but recently to the american people and their constitution yet fuck all, FUCK ALL, has been done to him or his Gestapo cronies. Fuck all...except a, haha, 'protest' a few months ago.

If they can't do more then go outside once every few months to wave a few signs and have a nice stroll then a civil war will never happen.
It just won't happen. It won't. Most are obviously too lazy, too complacent, too scared to lose their mollycoddled way of life to put any effort in. Well, other than tut about it on the internet. And maybe make a meme about it. Possibly throw in a few "See, we told you this would happen"s along the way. The demented geriatric tangerine is the usa's new king and almost no one has the spine to do anything about it.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Some Americans aren’t as excited as you are to engage in the bloodiest civil war yet seen that would likely drag the world into ww3.

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

You definitely need to be more dramatic and about all these fairytales of americans actually standing up to the orange buffoon.

Anyways, tell me, why will the world get dragged in to ww3 (lol, as if) because of a civil war that will never happen?

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”

[-] xyzzy@lemmy.today 3 points 5 hours ago

That said, the opening battles of the revolution were five years later.

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[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 141 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.

All because the Dems didn't want to "seem political". Mmmmkay.

The world is laughing at us.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Nah, the dems are complicit. Anyone with 2 neurons to rub together saw this coming. The reason they didnt prosecute is because theyre busy trying to find ways to secure themselves in the new regime, not antagonise the new god-leader. The Dems are straight up evil, only differentiated from the fascists by the fact that theyre too scared to actually do anything impactful.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 21 points 15 hours ago

Because the Dems are just the same billionaires but in blue.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

People need to realize that Trump is 50 years in the making. He was not the first to put "undesirables" in camps and arrest people based on racial profiling. He's not the first to give tax cuts/subsidies/bailouts to the rich while the cost of living gets progressively worse. He's not the first president to bomb countries without Congressional approval.

These trends are accelerated by Trump, but will continue after he's gone because they are systemic.

[-] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 59 points 18 hours ago
[-] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Are you taking refugees?

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 6 points 3 hours ago

Well a bit in the beginning because of the absurdity, but yeah, now it's just sad and terrifying.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 19 points 16 hours ago

I'm Canadian and I'm quivering in fear

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 85 points 21 hours ago

The White House expects that any potential invocation of the act would be met with swift legal challenges and ultimately land at the Supreme Court.

So, an unsigned 6-3.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 20 points 17 hours ago

That movie "Civil war" was very optimistic in hindsight

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[-] Pondis@lemmy.world 67 points 21 hours ago

Civil war is looming more and more everyday. If I was American I'd be so scared and angry right now.

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[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago

This gives me such revolutionary war vibes. The "fathers of the revolution" were not revolutionist, they did not want independence from Britain, but wanted thier legal rights upheld. The monarchy feared what they might do and so sent soldiers after them labeling them as revolutionist. Thier message then became one agianst the monarchy, tensions continued to escalate and well, revolution.

There is not an insurrection, there is not armies of rebels fighting to bring down the federal govermemt.... but start a war agianst people and eventually they will stert defending themselves, then we will have a war.

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