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Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

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[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 62 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure the specific blame the above commenter is referring to, but I blame Democrats for two things.

  1. They failed to recognize and truly fix systemic problems because the actual solutions aren't market-oriented.

  2. They dragged their heels on prosecuting Trump when he was out of power long enough for him to escape any liability and ultimately establish... this.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

JFC, do you really think that peace for a long time led them to believe that the republicans would go full on nazi? No one thought this would happen to this extreme. Stop fucking blaming the victims, which is the American people.

Trump and his republicans are NAZIS.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No one thought this would happen to this extreme.

No, it was actually pretty easy to imagine when:

  1. Trump told people to "find votes" for him;
  2. Trump had himself pre-emptively certified as the winner in some states; and
  3. Trump used stochastic terrorism to incite a riot outside a government building, as a response to his impending loss of power.

All of that screams "power-hungry facist", and the predictable outcome of someone like that regaining legal authority, obviously, is an attempt to transition towards fascism so they can retain that once-lost power indefinitely.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago

And he told people they'd never have to vote again. And Project 2025 forecast what would happen if he won but people wrote off that publicly available document as a delusion of the left

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Also, The Annoying Orange told everyone he'd be their "retribution". If people heard that and were confused about what that meant for most of the country, I don't know what to say.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 35 points 10 months ago

A lot of us thought this would happen if Trump won again. I don't think any of us thought it would get this bad this quickly, but definitely within his 2nd term.

Just to be clear, when I say I blame Democrats, I mean I blame the Democratic party, the Democrat leaders (Pelosi, Schumer, etc), and their apparatus. I can see how you thought I was blaming voters, but I assure you that's not what I meant.

And yes, I agree. The GOP are officially fascists by virtually any definition of the term.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lots of people foresaw this and tried to warn everybody and we were written off as irrational fearmongerers

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago

I mean, I've been calling it since around 2012.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The Hilldawg/DNC mugging of Bernie Sanders in 2016 confirmed to me that there were no good guys, just different sides.

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

Most popular Presidential Candidate for two elections in a row and didn't appear on the ballot in either of them. I've had conservative coworkers who've told me that they maybe didn't agree with Bernie but he's one of the few politicians they TRUST. That's rare and a squandered opportunity.

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Actually, a lot of us didn't fail history & have functional pattern matching abilities.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

has eyes

Saw this coming

Guys I'm a fucking genius, i bet next we will find out the sky is sometimes blue.

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