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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 128 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Except when they want to port the game from GameCube to Wii, so rather than modify the game, they just mirror the entire game to make everything gay so the motion controls can be straight.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago

I was so ticked when they changed him to be right handed just “because that’s what most people are”

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I played Twilight Princess on Wii and GameCube, and it was pretty fucking cool to feel like I was swinging the master sword. I probably would have just switched hands if they hadn't. It would have been an adjustment, but I would have gotten there.

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

[-] EldritchFeminity 13 points 3 days ago

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

Unless it's left-handed people. They can get fucked.

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[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Dev: "This man is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "Yeah that makes sense, you'd probably be more out and about"

Dev: "This woman is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "what the actual fuck"

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not even ripped or anything. Just "doesn't wear makeup and get hair done professionally during a zombie apocalypse" seems to piss gamergate jackasses off.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The opening of Gears Of War 3 where the humans live on some boats subsisting on vegetable patches and the male soldiers are still built like they eat an entire cow a day raw.

[-] veggibles@lemmy.wtf 52 points 3 days ago

gamers: this is a war against right handed people by the sinister lefties

[-] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

I etymologically saw what you did there

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 3 days ago

This is supposed to be a role playing game. I'm not left handed how are they expecting me to be immersed in this game? It totally breaks the realism!

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This gamer: chooses a female character so I can stare at her ass the whole time.

On an unrelated note, I am really enjoying Stellar Blade.

[-] liuther9@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago

Talking about things that exist makes me uncomfortable! Stop pushing your ideology on me!

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Those evil left-handers, always pushing their sinister agenda!

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

Broke: This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

Woke: Link is right-handed because we flipped the entire game

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I went out of my way to wait and play the GC version of Twilight Princess because I didn't want to play in a mirrored world with a right-handed Link. No waggle controls was a bonus.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 days ago

Can we stop giving attention to these people? The vast, vast, vast majority of gamers are not piece of shit bigots. There are probably Ike a few thousand of these bigots in total but they spend their entire life online and report on each other as if they are a majority and make a ton of online noise.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 3 days ago

Ignoring them clearly hasn't worked, because too many who actually pull the levers pay attention regardless.

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[-] melfie@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Spoilers ahead, BTW.

I was playing Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 and legit didn’t realize there was a romance option with Hans Capon until the cutscene where Henry locked the door, at which point, I was quite startled, and then realized that the dialog options with a heart next to them are romance and not just being a good, supportive friend. I am not gay and did not really want to see that myself, but do applaud the inclusivity. 🙈 I can imagine gay people feel the same having to muddle through the straight romance options in other games. The fact that I wasn’t expecting it shows this is way less common than it should be.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The one thing that bugs me about cyberpunk 2077 is the main story has an unskippable (straight) sex scene, I know they're almost a meme in gaming culture but I'm not here for that kind of content.

[-] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I have no interest in seeing stuff like that in games, tv shows, or movies. Fade to black quickly while they're kissing, we get it, let's move on. If you want to watch porn then watch porn, I'm trying to game or follow the story.

Only time it should be shown is if it advances a specific plot point in some way or form but 99% of the time it's not that.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You think that's bad? I was playing Leisure Suit Larry and it was almost like sex was the focus of the game. I almost didn't complete my play-through because of all that diagusting smut.

[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago

Is it actually "gamers" saying this?

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

I'd say a vocal minority do. A common form this takes is resentment over perceived "shoe-horning" of "politics" into games that "leads to bad games".

The thibly-veiled bigotry becomes clear when the shortcomings of the game are attributed primarily to the diversity representation, rather than anything else, with the assumption that it would have been better without it. "The writing is bad because they wanted to make a political statement above all else."

This becomes especially apparent when you consider that those same people would never blame bad writing in a game on making all the characters in a game heterosexual.

Some people are just straight-up haters, no veil necessary.

I can sympathize a little with people who had a romantic expectation for a character that they might have fantasized or self-inserted and feel disappointed or even betrayed by having their expectations subverted, especially if they had a strong attachment, as in franchise characters. But they also need to get over the fact that not everything has to be made for them. 95% of whats out there is already made for them.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Ironically, most of the people I hear engaged in gamergate/anti gamergate noise don't actually play games. Maybe they did back in school, but now they'd rather listen to some podcast or like twitter posts for whatever team they chose.

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[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

What kind of games are y'all playing? In the games I usually play the sexual orientation of the characters isn't mentioned at all. So for all I know they could be straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever.

The last game I remember playing where the protagonists wife was mentioned (implying he's not gay) was Max Payne, 25 years ago.

The engineer in Factorio doesn't care for men or women, all he cares for is that the factory must grow. And afaik it's never mentioned wether Jebediah Kerman is into Bob, Bill or Valentina. None of the thousands of enemy soldiers I have shot in various shooters ever told me whom they're in love with. And all the Sims I might have killed by burning down the city were just numbers for all I know.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Character driven story games place at least some emphasis on sexuality and relationships in many games. Cyberpunk, The Witcher, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate 3, The Last of Us.

[-] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago

To be clear, you define the sexuality of your own character in BG3. Every companion NPC, on the other hand, will have a boner for you if you take them on adventures and do stuff they like, regardless of your character's race, sex, or religion.

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[-] prole 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Last of Us 1 & 2 are the first ones that comes to mind. And both games are really fucking good because of it, not in spite of it.

You're talking about games that don't have a narrative, of course the characters aren't going to have sexuality.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

"Or, we could make it a woman"

"Um, ok, wait, we need to think about this"

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

That response is from loud mouths

[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago

Some people play games and some people live vicariously thru games. And alot of men in the US have been conditioned to expect to be the victims of violence or social ridicule if they're suspected of being gay. I don't agree with their discomfort but I understand why it happens.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 days ago

Oh it's OK. The main character is a woman.

Genuinely struggling to think of any game where you play a gay man... Like as a forced thing, not an option like Fable 2.

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[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

It's breaking my immersion! /s

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 12 points 3 days ago

Shoving gay characters down our throats!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Yeah but they were just groomed to lefty sympathies by Shigeru Miyamoto

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[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

„But what‘s the plot reason for them being gay? I don‘t mind gay people being in something, but if there‘s not a reason for it, then it‘s just pandering!“

[-] Soulg@ani.social 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Frankly I would much rather a character be gay but it have no relevance whatsoever, it's just a random fact about them

But also what another poster said, make it come up organically, don't just force it in for diversity points. Makes it feel cheap and tokenized

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

You mean, the same reason why anybody's gay? They're born that way?

What do they expect? "A wizard turned him gay."

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[-] Noise7@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Alright, but I have yet to see a game character that’s left handed though

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 74 points 3 days ago
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

Yeah, Link surprised me, he's left handed in most games before BOTW, which is neat.

[-] hildegarde 25 points 3 days ago

He is right handed in the Wii games with motion controls for the benefit of the majority of right handed gamers, but left handed everywhere else.

Twilight Princess was crossgen between GameCube and Wii. The two games are mirror images of each other because it made it simpler to port the game than mirroring the character animations alone.

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[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Here's a couple random ones, outside of the obvious (Link from The Legend of Zelda).

Some of the character models in Warcraft 3 were left-handed, like the Footman and the Grunt. The weird implication in this is that in the Warcraft universe, left-handed is the default, because while the common Footmen were lefties, the heroic Paladin was right-handed.

Some of the party members from early Final Fantasy games were left-handed: Leila and Leon from FF2, and Kain and Palom from FF4. Because of the 2D sprites it didn't show very well during battles, but it did affect the way their equipment was arranged in the menus.

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