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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 132 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Except when they want to port the game from GameCube to Wii, so rather than modify the game, they just mirror the entire game to make everything gay so the motion controls can be straight.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 month ago

I was so ticked when they changed him to be right handed just “because that’s what most people are”

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I played Twilight Princess on Wii and GameCube, and it was pretty fucking cool to feel like I was swinging the master sword. I probably would have just switched hands if they hadn't. It would have been an adjustment, but I would have gotten there.

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

[-] EldritchFeminity 13 points 1 month ago

But I can understand not wanting to create a barrier to entry.

Unless it's left-handed people. They can get fucked.

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[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Adding a left handed mode was too complex I guess. Minecraft was able to do it.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

Talking about things that exist makes me uncomfortable! Stop pushing your ideology on me!

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Those evil left-handers, always pushing their sinister agenda!

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Sums up so much about society right now ^

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dev: "This man is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "Yeah that makes sense, you'd probably be more out and about"

Dev: "This woman is ripped in the apocalypse"
Gamers: "what the actual fuck"

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not even ripped or anything. Just "doesn't wear makeup and get hair done professionally during a zombie apocalypse" seems to piss gamergate jackasses off.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The opening of Gears Of War 3 where the humans live on some boats subsisting on vegetable patches and the male soldiers are still built like they eat an entire cow a day raw.

[-] veggibles@lemmy.wtf 53 points 1 month ago

gamers: this is a war against right handed people by the sinister lefties

[-] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

I etymologically saw what you did there

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 19 points 1 month ago

This is supposed to be a role playing game. I'm not left handed how are they expecting me to be immersed in this game? It totally breaks the realism!

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[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

Can we stop giving attention to these people? The vast, vast, vast majority of gamers are not piece of shit bigots. There are probably Ike a few thousand of these bigots in total but they spend their entire life online and report on each other as if they are a majority and make a ton of online noise.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 24 points 1 month ago

Ignoring them clearly hasn't worked, because too many who actually pull the levers pay attention regardless.

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[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago

Is it actually "gamers" saying this?

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

I'd say a vocal minority do. A common form this takes is resentment over perceived "shoe-horning" of "politics" into games that "leads to bad games".

The thibly-veiled bigotry becomes clear when the shortcomings of the game are attributed primarily to the diversity representation, rather than anything else, with the assumption that it would have been better without it. "The writing is bad because they wanted to make a political statement above all else."

This becomes especially apparent when you consider that those same people would never blame bad writing in a game on making all the characters in a game heterosexual.

Some people are just straight-up haters, no veil necessary.

I can sympathize a little with people who had a romantic expectation for a character that they might have fantasized or self-inserted and feel disappointed or even betrayed by having their expectations subverted, especially if they had a strong attachment, as in franchise characters. But they also need to get over the fact that not everything has to be made for them. 95% of whats out there is already made for them.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Ironically, most of the people I hear engaged in gamergate/anti gamergate noise don't actually play games. Maybe they did back in school, but now they'd rather listen to some podcast or like twitter posts for whatever team they chose.

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[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 8 points 1 month ago

When you're fine with taking a quote from a subset of a group and applying it to the group itself, you can make any group of a large enough size say anything!

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Gamers, posters, gaming press people, also idiots...

It covers an awful lot of people.,

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

""""gamers""""

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[-] janonymous@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

It's breaking my immersion! /s

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

"Or, we could make it a woman"

"Um, ok, wait, we need to think about this"

[-] Noise7@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Alright, but I have yet to see a game character that’s left handed though

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 74 points 1 month ago
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

Yeah, Link surprised me, he's left handed in most games before BOTW, which is neat.

[-] hildegarde 25 points 1 month ago

He is right handed in the Wii games with motion controls for the benefit of the majority of right handed gamers, but left handed everywhere else.

Twilight Princess was crossgen between GameCube and Wii. The two games are mirror images of each other because it made it simpler to port the game than mirroring the character animations alone.

[-] vateso5074@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Weird that they never bothered to swap him back to left handed for the Switch games, though.

Isometric Link (Link's Awakening remake) remains left handed at least, but Switch era 3D Link is right handed.

I'll just chalk that up to the Switch games wanting to switch (heh) it up a bit, with his primary color association also switching from green to blue. Maybe if they decide to make an older style 3D Zelda again, they'll go back to left handed Link.

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[-] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

Here's a couple random ones, outside of the obvious (Link from The Legend of Zelda).

Some of the character models in Warcraft 3 were left-handed, like the Footman and the Grunt. The weird implication in this is that in the Warcraft universe, left-handed is the default, because while the common Footmen were lefties, the heroic Paladin was right-handed.

Some of the party members from early Final Fantasy games were left-handed: Leila and Leon from FF2, and Kain and Palom from FF4. Because of the 2D sprites it didn't show very well during battles, but it did affect the way their equipment was arranged in the menus.

[-] drosophila 6 points 1 month ago

Artorias from the Dark Souls 1 DLC is left handed.

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[-] Aljernon@lemmy.today 13 points 1 month ago

Some people play games and some people live vicariously thru games. And alot of men in the US have been conditioned to expect to be the victims of violence or social ridicule if they're suspected of being gay. I don't agree with their discomfort but I understand why it happens.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 12 points 1 month ago

Shoving gay characters down our throats!

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

That response is from loud mouths

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

„But what‘s the plot reason for them being gay? I don‘t mind gay people being in something, but if there‘s not a reason for it, then it‘s just pandering!“

[-] Soulg@ani.social 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Frankly I would much rather a character be gay but it have no relevance whatsoever, it's just a random fact about them

But also what another poster said, make it come up organically, don't just force it in for diversity points. Makes it feel cheap and tokenized

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

You mean, the same reason why anybody's gay? They're born that way?

What do they expect? "A wizard turned him gay."

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you don't need a plot reason for a male character to have a wife, then you don't need a plot reason for a male character to have a husband.

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[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

This is where the line gets blurry tho. On one hand, yeah, bigots exist, but on the other hand, I could see this being a clumsy attempt at complaining about poor writing.

Like, I'm pretty sure I said something like this when Rowling said Dumbledore was gay. I'm not cishet, amd it still feels like she retconned that in for points, especially now that we're seeing exactly what she thinks about LGBT stuff.

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Oh she absolutely did. Just like she did the “i never said Hermione *wasn’t * Black” thing, despite having described her cheeks as “pink” on more than one occasion.

But that’s not what the people i was quoting mean. They’re doing the “straight, white, cis, man is the default, and anything deviating from that needs an explicit in-universe explanation”.

There was a thing that did the rounds a while back which was variations on “what race are you? White or political?”, “what’s your sexuality? Straight or political?”, etc.

it’s basically that. Straight guy? Fine. Gay guy? “But what’s the *reason *he’s gay? How is it relevant to the plot?”

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago

This character is ambidextrous because we just flipped the sprite

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This gamer: chooses a female character so I can stare at her ass the whole time.

On an unrelated note, I am really enjoying Stellar Blade.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah but they were just groomed to lefty sympathies by Shigeru Miyamoto

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[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

What kind of games are y'all playing? In the games I usually play the sexual orientation of the characters isn't mentioned at all. So for all I know they could be straight, gay, bi, pan or whatever.

The last game I remember playing where the protagonists wife was mentioned (implying he's not gay) was Max Payne, 25 years ago.

The engineer in Factorio doesn't care for men or women, all he cares for is that the factory must grow. And afaik it's never mentioned wether Jebediah Kerman is into Bob, Bill or Valentina. None of the thousands of enemy soldiers I have shot in various shooters ever told me whom they're in love with. And all the Sims I might have killed by burning down the city were just numbers for all I know.

[-] ieGod@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Character driven story games place at least some emphasis on sexuality and relationships in many games. Cyberpunk, The Witcher, Mass Effect, Baldur's Gate 3, The Last of Us.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Oh it's OK. The main character is a woman.

Genuinely struggling to think of any game where you play a gay man... Like as a forced thing, not an option like Fable 2.

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