As a foreign famous activist she probably has a "good" treatment for a detainee. Imagine what the Gazan child hostages go through in Israeli prisons (spoiler: reported electrical shock torture and sexual crimes)
Do you have any evidence to support that or are you just using conjecture? I don't have a dog in the fight, but you're literally making shit up out of thin air. Given how persistent bed bugs are I would imagine they are a significant problem in any prison in the world. Keeping bed bugs out is probably like trying to keep a cold/flu/covid out of any concentrated living facility (prison, nursing home, welfare home, or homeless shelter).
If hotels struggle to prevent bed bugs then you can be assured that prisons will too. If you're gonna peacefully protest with the knowledge that you will be detained then you should also know that you're gonna deal with jail/prison conditions which include bed bugs.
There’s literally a fucking Wikipedia article you genocide denying troll. Here’s all the rape you can stomach!
In its June 2024 investigative report, the UN's Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory (CoI) concluded: "The frequency, prevalence and severity of sexual and gender-based crimes perpetrated against Palestinians since 7 October across the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) indicate that specific forms of Sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) are part of Israeli Security Forces (ISF) operating procedures."
"I'm unbiased, but I think you're lying for no reason at all!"
You're a silly man.
Is wasn't making a proof statement: I wasn't saying that since she's more known others have worse treatment. I based my comment on knowledge of the worse treatment (cited in the other comments).
Also I wasn't talking about the bed bugs, but about the pulled by hair and forced to kiss flag kind of things.
You don't believe in privilege? Do you really think the people the news don't name get the same treatment?
Just google it
So they're torturing her. Israel is torturing her.
Israel has no way to win in this situation. Torturing her will result in media backlash. Executing her would only make a martyr, which is even worse. Somehow, Israel didn’t choose to kick her out immediately.
The worst thing Israel could have done to discredit Greta Thunberg and damage her brand would have been to give her a nice meal, a warm bed in a nice hotel, gently push her onboard the next 1st class flight back to Stockholm the next day and release a statement telling her to go play SJW somewhere else. Instead, they're doing everything possible to confirm they're truly bad people, like dumbasses.
True.
And I think I have an explanation for that:
We do not often read how Israeli politicians talk, verbatim*. They got used responding only to their own media landscape, where apparently they can go much farther in their rhetoric (and subsequent actions) without repercussions. There's also some deep-seated misogyny specifically against women of other race/religion or however they define that for themselves. Like, they'd never do that if she was a typical NY Jew, for example.
Of course that isn't the whole picture; we must also look at the unquestioning support they've been getting from most "Western" countries which no doubt contributed to them developing this sort of impunity.
* Netanyahu often speaks English when addressing the world. It's still bad enough, but it allows him to present a different picture to the world than to his constituency.
It's kinda like all those comments on WWII that begin with "The Nazis could've won if only they..." and then describe a course of action that would require the Nazis to not be Nazis.
They realize that kicking her out just means she will be on her way back on the next boat. They are trying to intimidate her into not coming back.
I hope the Swedish government has a harsh answer for one of their citizens getting kidnapped in International Waters.
Israel has no way to win in this situation.
They could have not taken her hostage.
But then more people might be willing to risk it and ride in aid. Israel definitely doesn't want that. (Not saying it's a good thing just the optics would cause them just as many problems)
They could publicly execute her and governments around the world would still support them.
Well some of them would, because that’s how international politics works. However, a surprising number of countries have recognized Palestine, so I think the number of friends Israel has might be in a decline.
Maybe but blah blah Israel reasons we gotta torture her. Sure you understand blah blah
Israel is a terrorist country.
Am I wrong in saying they're (seemingly) quantifiably worse than every other "terrorist" country in the region? I know plenty have human rights issues, but I can't imagine anyone is competitive on sheer quantity of murder and atrocities!?
There are no others actively perpetrating genocide on the massive scale Israel is. Morally and legally that puts Israel in a class of its own.
The Swedish government, and the EU commission is not making nearly enough noise as it should here.
Conservative Swedish PM (~~Prime~~ Pretend Minister) "Jam For Spine" Kristersson is known for both his mental laziness and fear of conflicts. He's still remembered for fleeing a room, literally running, when confronted by a journalist about his personal shady deals.
Kowtowing to israel? Imagine.
Just Crimes Against Humanity Things.
She's got balls. Straight dude here, love her.
why did you need to announce you are a straight dude? 🤣
straight dudes do be lovin their balls.
This is Lemmy, just assuming straight white cis dude is much less likely than the old place.
I appreciate your message but you can say that she has guts, has courage, etc. No need to compare women to men when courage is something anyone can have.
Anyone can have balls. Some women have balls.
I mean, sure. But lots of us also don't and can still be courageous people without being compared to those who do.
The rogue terrorist state of Israel commited piracy.
She deserves it. How dare she care for others like that? We don't take kindly to people caring about others around here. /s
Do they purposely use the worst photos of her?
Man, I wish my worst photo looked that good.
I was about to say. For someone detained in a prison abroad she looks freaking glowing in the photo lol
You can usually tell at a glance if an article will be critical or supportive of a certain person, based on the photo they choose to go alongside the headline.
General rule of thumb, if you want someone to look composed, use a photo with their mouth closed. If you want them to look dumb, choose a photo with their mouth open mid-speech. It’s not a universal thing, but still images of people mid-word don’t tend to be flattering.
If they are pro-Greta why would they use a really good picture here? They want to show how bad her incarceration is.
Greta <3
Sooo is anyone gonna do anything here? I know USA would back up Israel here but, like, someone help?
They will be treated kinda badly in order to encourage them to not get on the next set of boats coming down, then they will be released.
Some will rejoin the next flotilla will which will hopefully be a hundred boats or more and maybe some of the countries will provide naval cover to stop the drones from attacking them on the seas.
Are we ready to believe victims now? Are we ready to act?
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