So where are the bus loads of lawyers? Even with today’s authoritarian reality, that should be an open-shut case. Even if ICE claims they can write their own warrants, there’s no way they’re motivated enough to write one for every unit in a large building. Their laziness trumps their malice
I hate the fact that the international community is just sitting by because it's an internal affair and only speaking up about trade issues, etc... That's what gave Nazi Germany carte blanche to do it's thing leading up to 39.
Every sane country on earth needs to be embargoing the fuck out of the U.S., not just for their own sake, but for the sake of forcing the American political establishment to deal with their own fascist problem or become a paraiah on the world stage.
1800 people have already been "lost track of" (read: murdered until proven otherwise) in the Everglades concentration camp.
Yeah but the problem is he didn't achieve power by some manipulation of the vote at least not primarily he achieved it by getting a bunch of Americans to vote for him. A bunch of stupid ignorant Americans wearing silly hats voted for him.
Shy of any evidence to say otherwise he is the democratically elected leader of the United States. All the countries can't be setting the precedent that if they don't like a particular leader they will assist in their downfall.
Besides if Europe playes it's cards right it's about to become the economic superpower of the world. The current economic superpower appears to be continuously blowing their own feet off and giggling.
All the countries can't be setting the precedent that if they don't like a particular leader they will assist in their downfall.
Yeah, only we can do that.
Yeah. That's very true. I hadn't thought about it that way. Thanks for giving me something to think about.
Hitler was votes in. So was Mussolini. Kind of.
If only the days of invading a fully militarized country were still on the table. You can't look at this like it's 1939. With nukes now being a thing no one wants to get involved because it will end in total destruction. America is over, a failed experiment in self governance. In all honesty USA should be broken up into 50 SEPERATE countries. There needs to be a plan in place for this to come to fruition, or its over for you guys. All of you seem to actively hate everyone else in your country.
More like 7-10 countries based on a combination of bioregions, cultural zones, and remaining indigenous communities. Many (most?) US states aren't developed or densely populated enough to function as independent nations as they currently exist.
I'd start with: Cascadia, California-Nevada, the Southwest (UT/CO/AZ/NM), the Midwest, Texas-Oklahoma, the Confederate States (minus Texas), Yankee (NY, NJ, PA), and New England.
Surreal? No. Horrifying.
Where are all those GUNS at America????
In the hands of the fascists, just as they've always been.
Anarchists and some varities of Communists/Socialists have guns but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by Liberals who embraced gun prohibition.
They mounted a tripod gun on the roof of the broadview facility. I challenge anyone to think about "shithole" areas of the world and not envision unmarked paramilitary wearing masks, body armor, and carrying something like an ar15.
How exactly do ICE punks get their authority?
They're not cops, so how can they detain people?
mostly from not being shot on sight
They arent cops but they do derive their authority the same way cops do: the govt imbues them with that authority.
on reddit post, i heard they were dragging out naked children.
If someone entered the sanctity of my home without first presenting an Article III warrant, they'd get a bullet in their skull
Ice also has guns and they don’t roll in by themselves. They roll four or more deep most of the time on home raids. Even people with guns don’t want to get shot themselves. The way ICE rolls in without warning, most people aren’t locked and loaded in mass sitting in their homes. I’m sure the people there weren’t expecting that excessive action. Most Americans don’t wanna die in a government fire fight if they can help it. You have to be alive to claim self defense, and our government’s so corrupt it’s not a guarantee you’ll win. As deep as ice rolls into these type of situations, it’s not like they won’t have back up to take you out if you do happen to take a couple of them out. Trump will back ICE if they use any excessive force.
A lot of people like to puff out their chest and say that. I still haven't seen something like that happen in the news for all the times ICE has raided people's homes throughout the country. It could be a matter of time but it'll be exceedingly rare.
It is a situation where after the pin drops, everything explodes. Exceedingly rare will become common, simply because law and norms no longer has enough belief to sustain the status quo.
The America we knew is running on inertia alone. That ride is coming to an end.
It does happen, although I haven’t heard of it happening recently with ICE per se, but I do recall Breonna Taylor’s boyfriend firing at police for entering the home unannounced and hitting a cop.
I agree with you, but...while you say that, when there's 10 brown shirts outside, ready to return fire, I don't know how practical that ends up being...
The 2nd Amendment exists for when all the other Amendments fail.
If you don't respect the 4th Amendment, maybe you'll respect the 2nd Amendment.
So Americans, you ready to put a stop to this yet?
General strike now. Shut it down. Organize, disrupt, disobey.
This would require the participation of every union in America. They should be the ones leading the effort.
Don't worry, there will surely be people left to speak up for us when they come for us.
They will continue to escalate, also. They need a reason to halt the midterms. If they succeed at raids without opposition they get rid of a lot of people they already don't like, and if we fight back, tRump enacts ~~Marshall~~ Martial Law. We were fucked as soon as SCOUTS said presidents were above the law...
This is absolutely insane and highly illegal. The government cannot just kick down a whole apartment building full of doors, enter homes, and arrest people at random without a warrant or exigent circumstances. The law is quite settled on this.
The "law" is being ignored as it was in pre- Nazi Germany when the brown shirts started arresting and beating and intimidating people. There is no law currently.
This is absolutely insane and highly illegal.
Add it to the list.
"Welcome to City 17"
Fuck off. We've been watching this for months. Do something about it already.
The thing is people don't like to hear it but history has the answer. The only thing that stopped the Nazis was violence. If Hitler's assassination attempt in the early 1940s had been successful history would never have even recorded his name.
And violence, starts at home. The international community won't help and couldn't help even if they wanted to. That will come in time, but Americans have to take responsibility for starting it.
I keep seeing this. What is there to do?
Commit suicide by ~~cop~~ capital defense force? Because that's basically what "doing something" entails.
Any positions that could "do something" are on the Fascist's side, including the for profit news media. We are just as trapped in this capitalist web of coercion as we were before it went full fascist.
Why do you think filthy socialists and commies like myself were telling anyone who would listen, including getting laughed off of occupy Wall Street by the people we were trying to save, I was there, that the capital markets were our doom and our end? Because they were, and here we are.
I'm just glad their dream of this malice continuing in perpetuity truly is just a malignant dream. Climate change has something for this greedy, sociopathic civilization's ass, and the fact that we're turning our habitat against the species effectively permanently can't be bribed, black bagged, discredited, dissappeared, reframed, or any of the other dirty tricks the capitalist fascists have used to get their way and steamroll the innocent.
Bring the economy to a halt via general strike and street marches that disrupt traffic. Nothing short of that will get anyone's attention.
The US, it bears repeating captured by our capital markets, keeps most Americans on a paycheck to paycheck knives edge for that very reason. The ones most inclined to strike are the ones that have the most to lose by striking.
You're asking tens of millions of people to lose the roof over their heads for a very uncertain outcome.
The sad reality is that the capitalist bastards have their bases covered. Not surprising considering their effectively limiltess capital and the generational grudge the wealth class has over the formation of unions here to begin with.
I'm thinking ICE was not given all that funding for nothing. They were probably already over-funded even before this year, and now they have multiples of what they had before.
Ghouls like Stephen Miller want to see that money spent on inflicting pain on others...
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