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So Americans, you ready to put a stop to this yet?
General strike now. Shut it down. Organize, disrupt, disobey.
Don't worry, there will surely be people left to speak up for us when they come for us.
Unemployed people be like:
Sure, I'll just go ahead and lose my job now and deprive my family of food and shelter before the Nazis get a chance to do so.
I'm all for calling out Nazi bullshit, but blanket statements like this help absolutely nobody.
Chickenshit response
Yes, I'm totally chickenshit for choosing to keep my family fed and sheltered over a call to revolution made by some pissant on the Internet larping as a leftist guerilla.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
Cool. Let me know when you find a modern labor movement that isn't sucking neoliberal cock or still living in 1918.
Excuses
Blow it out your ass, kid. The only thing you've ever organized is your striped sock collection.
I'm sure believing that helps you feel better about being a fucking coward, it definitely doesn't help anything else
It takes a real man to know when to let those more capable lead the revolution.
Nah, bro. Fuck your vanguards. I'm just not interested in ruining my wife's life because I fell in with some first semester anarchists who think good praxis is scolding working people just trying to survive for not storming a federal building.
Nobody is saying you have to lead anything, just find someone worth following and start following
"I don't have people depending on me" ass response.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You're not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
I help my wife by paying for her insanely expensive scleral lenses that she needs in order to fucking SEE.
I help my kids by providing a stable grocery budget, reliable transportation to school and back, clothes, and shelter.
I help my nonverbal preschooler by taking him to weekly speech therapy while my wife handles the rest of the family.
You cannot help others when you can't even help your own family. And calling the people who are literally unable to do anything outside of that, "cowards", doesn't help anybody and makes YOU a gigantic piece of shit for refusing to even try putting yourself in someone else's shoes.
I am doing everything I possibly can in my power, and more, just to keep my family afloat, then you fucking shitheels come in with nobody directly depending on you, point at people like me while puffing your chest out, proclaiming for all to hear: "LOOK, HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO SUCH A SIMPLE TASK, HE IS A COWARD AND A BAD MAN".
Unempathetic people like you are the entire reason for humanity's pitfalls.
Do yourself a favor: go fuck a cactus.
That's a whole lot of words to say "no fuck you I like being a coward and I resent being told to stop or take any responsibility whatsoever for the state of the world my children will inherit"
You don't have a clue whether I or any of the other people who've clearly told you this before have got dependents or not, and you don't actually care. You're just looking for any excuse you can find to ignore valid criticism, and in the absence of a coherent argument to support your spinelessness you're more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.
Speaking of, I am a little familiar with this group https://generalstrikeus.com/
I don't see it discussed much in fediverse channels, and I don't really know why. Curious to hear what people think of them. But they're the only group pushing for a general strike that I can think of off the top of my head.
I don't like having to share my phone number, which is why I haven't signed up. Or that every social is the typical - discord, bluesky, youtube, instagram.
I'm all for the idea, but they give me big privacy worries.
Same. I looked at it but as soon as it wanted all that contact info I dipped. I already get "omg! send us money to craft these strongly worded letters in opposition!" texts. I don't want more of them nor a centralized location someone can use to find those who support the idea of a general strike.
If it happens, people will talk about it and it'll pick up steam like domino's falling!
Check the site again. They've changed in the last few weeks to include an option with more privacy, I think.
So they have! Though you have to scroll down to see it, its not really apparent that other options are there now....
For reference:
I've included the link to their (ugh) Google Drive version of the mail-in card. Name or pseudonym and an email are required, phone number is not, so that is a good option.
Again, I've included the link to their google drive version of the in-person sheet.
This is what I just did, I'll deal with the mailer later on.
I think its called game theory? Or maybe prisoner dilema. We are afraid that enough of the country is in support of the nazi regime that the strikers will lose their jobs
It's what everyone is conditioned to think and believe
In reality, if they fight they might lose their jobs ...
.... if they wait to see what else happens, they'll probably lose their jobs anyway
You're damned if you do and damned if you don't ... if you do nothing, there is more of a chance of losing everything but if you fight back or at least protest peacefully and disrupt and disobey, there is enough of a chance that you and everyone else will have much more to gain.
some still doesnt think its got to a critical point where its affecting them yet. if your living in HCOL its unlikely people will see the same situation as in illinois
Um... I work in elder care. If my team strikes 80+ will die.
We're not talking about you specifically, and it detracts from the message and the seriousness of the situation to use your specific situation as possibly representative of the rest of the country. If all people who can would strike, then we would be in a good place. You're an essential worker. We're not trying to kill off our elders.
I think the general strike is the best bet because they’re looking for a reason or excuse to have the military start massacring civilians. I honestly think a widespread peaceful general strike shutting down the economy until the oligarchs cry mercy is our best hope in this situation
This would require the participation of every union in America. They should be the ones leading the effort.
We have no way of carrying out a general strike right now. GSUSA is a pretty good group trying to build capacity, and UAW President Shawn Fain is pushing for unions to renegotiate their contracts so that they all end on May 1st 2028, obvs including UAW.
General Strikes are illegal in the USA, a union can't call a legal solidarity strike, thanks to Taft-Hartley. I'm not a legalism guy, I think legalism is an illusion the workers need to overcome. But the fact is, we haven't overcome it. Even a lot of pretty militant leftist groups in the US have a "new constitutional convention" fetish, it's even in the old DSA program.
There is no infrastructure for it. A few dozen Americans on Lemmy not showing up for work isn't gonna do shit. The best chance we got is 2028, which will be badass if Trump is still in office.
There is so much work to do and frankly its frustrating when people are like "just do impossible thing". Stand up and help us we need help so badly. I think a lot of people in USamerica who say this kind of shit have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about. No one wants to give up a fraction of their quality of life to have a political discussion about real shit. People just want someone else to come along and save them, and then even if someone does come along, complain if we don't have our butt kissed just the way we like it. The only thing we know how to do is speak to a manager. We are a nation of Karens. We are not ready.
He will never leave office willingly. He tried to overthrow the government last time he lost and this time he's a LOT better entrenched. You can't vote out a dictator. If you don't act and put your hopes in an election that won't help you, you've already lost your democracy. And honestly, you'll deserve it.
Dude I'm right there with you in thinking that we're just not capable of a general strike. We don't know our neighbors, don't hang out with strangers, and really have no community outside intimate relations. Shit seems like tons of people can't stand their friends and family either!
It's def the building infrastructure kind of advice and shit I wish people were doing and taking about more. How to we build that infrastructure and how do we connect with the people that are trying to build communities
I want to help correct what's happened here but I also don't want to fucking die or starve or become unhoused
For a lot of people, staying alive, keeping hope, is what you are doing. Just educating ourselves in a way that helps us see the world and the people in it more clearly, to recognize the connections between us and society, is itself a revolutionary act.
I had the privilege of being elected by my city's DSA chapter to attend the national convention this year. And believe me, we are building that infrastructure. The sense of connectedness and shared mission along with about 1200 socialist organizers, not just online weirdos but actual wonderful, committed, very busy and diverse people, it has been an incredible feeling each time I was sent.
But there is a cost. I've been doxxed, I have my own KeyWiki page. I'm in several databases, I've written articles in my own name. But at a certain point I just started to see people as having a target on their back because of nothing they did, it came down to the color of their skin, their gender, who they love, what they believe or where they came from. As an middle age dude I just figured if they have a target on their back then I should do something to put one on mine too.
I'm not a fraction of the man's measure, but Eugene Debbs, who got a million votes for president from prison in 1920, said at his trial for sedition in 1918, "As long as there is a soul in prison, I am not free."
When you're ready and able to join the movement, I'll have saved a place for you in it.
Sign your general strike card! It only takes 3.5% of the population to bring the economy to its knees.
I think the violence will continue (and probably escalate) until the United States of America are split apart. There cannot be one central federal government. Political power must be shifted to the states. Unfortunately, due to historical reasons, not enough people are understanding this yet, because a federal system has worked so well in the past, that it first needs to be proven by Trump that the potential for abuse at the federal level is huge, and only then will the States get their Rights.
Diasgree. With no federal apparatus to guide the force of all 50 states they are weaker on their lonesome and calling aid from one to another is far more burdensome. Besides, red states rely on federal funding from taxes in blue states and would collapse without them. Red states are major crop producers that the blue states consume. Balance of powers is the best bet. It's not perfect but it's far superior to dissolving the federal government which would undoubtadly start inter-state and civil wars. Unfortunately, the human propensity for conflict is best utilized in keeping each other in check and is best coupled with rewarding those who suppress suppression and are prepared to employ violence against the violent.
I'd say that's a reason to split apart. (slight /s)
Or, you know, kick the bastards out, and close all the authoritarian loopholes. More democracy, stop subsidizing the fuck out of the rich, move that to education and research. Mandate empiricism in governance.
End US imperialism in favour of multilateral partnerships, especially around the 800 or so military bases in other countries, or else that shit returns home and gets used on Americans. The ship has sailed on being the one superpower. Adapt and evolve.
Myself, I favour smaller polities wherever possible, but given the current lack of an egalitarian basis to start from, breaking the states into countries will be a feast for the oligarchs.
Yes, who's organizing it and when?
https://generalstrikeus.com/
This has been there for more than six months. They aren't going to do anything but wave more signs in a couple of weeks. Should work this time.
Who's fucking idea was it to wait until the 18the of October to do No Kings 2?