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Archive article: https://archive.is/EfZkV “We don’t have a military full of Nordic pagans,” he said. “No more beards, long hair, superficial individual expression,” he added. “We’re going to cut our hair, shave our beards, and adhere to standards.”

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[-] forrcaho@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm convinced that the real purpose of this meeting was to gauge the willingness of top military officers to support a coup. I would be surprised if their private conversations in response to this spectacle were not spied on.

Fortunately, at least in public appearance, they don't seem thrilled with this administration.

[-] Andonyx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I think you're crediting them with more foresight, shrewdness and competency than has ever been demonstrated by this admin.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This guy reminds me of every dick-less wonder that issues "return to office" orders just so they can walk around and micromanage people.

[-] pr0phet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 156 points 2 days ago

He is such an idiot. Oh yes, let’s lecture career officers about what a real fighter looks like. It’s all just optics. Idiot.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 84 points 2 days ago

Bad optics, at that. Hegseth just created the single largest opsec failure that the US has seen in over a century and used it to complain to career military generals that they look too woke.

If literally any other man tried this at any other time in American history he'd be in front of a court martial so fast your head would spin.

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[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile, the supporting act, Mr Droopeye...

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

He used to work for Fox News, of course he has a skewed view on the importance of optics.

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 139 points 2 days ago

Hegseth complained that as leader of this department he is constantly surrounded by unattractive, hairy, bear types. He wants to see nice smooth skin that is easy on the eyes and the military will require a more metrosexual look! He also wants to see more exercise and he needs hard bodies out there. The harder. The better.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago

Unleash the tactical twinks!

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[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 44 points 2 days ago

Jesus. It's like if Mac from Always Sunny was the defence secretary.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Doesn't Taco have issues with beards, by the way? I wonder if he has talked to "JD" "Vance" about that beard of his...

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

fun fact. vances beard is just trumps signature.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

**They declared war on America.

Encouraged war crimes (against American citizens)**

Enacted a bunch of racist and sexist shit (beard thing)

Announced they were planning on starting wars as soon as they feel like it

Rejected and alienated large portions of the American population from serving on the brink of WW3

Dementia Don rambled incoherently for a long time

Threatened the generals if they didn’t show fealty to the pedo king

Said the generals aren’t sexy enough for Pete

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

His comment about beards is iterally the least problematic/newsworthy part of his speech. Why the fuck would you focus on this and not, I don't know, his straight outta 1984 "war is peace" statement? Extreme journalistic malpractice.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I agree they literally declared war on American citizens

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

An outsized portion of African American soldiers get beard waivers because if they shave they suffer from “razor bumps” (Pseudofolliculitis Barbae); which is not just razor burn that goes away but a painful skin condition with unsightly pustules.

Basically Pete’s trying to be like “oh, can’t be professional if you’re black, sorry you don’t meet our stringent requirements”

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

What he did is he proved to everyone he didn't know a thing about the military.

[-] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 102 points 2 days ago

Pete Hegesth can't grow a beard

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

It's the only logical conclusion.

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[-] CascadiaRo@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hegseth’s speech was met with a relatively muted response from the military brass. 

Trump took the stage after him, noting that: “I’ve never walked into a room so silent before.”

Probably because this meeting ~~should~~ could have been an email.

[-] Laser@feddit.org 54 points 2 days ago

It should have been no email. Nothing about this was necessary.

I'd feel so fucking stupid as a general being lectured by this dropout and a draft dodging president about how they won no war "because of woke". Absolute disgrace but to be expected for that admin.

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[-] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago

This is the most fascist speech in a while, and there's competition

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

hundreds of senior officers most of which are probably keenly aware that America will possibly be at war with China in the next 5 years, and with Russia uncomfortably sooner. And this cokehead carted them all to Virginia basically just to do hyper conservative virtue signaling like it was an election campaign.

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 days ago

What did Hegseth think was going to happen? That all the generals were going to stomp their feet and hoot and holler? That they were going to pump their fists in the air and shout "YEEEAAAH!" ?

That sh*t might work on Private Pyle but those Generals had more important things to do and places to be. They're pissed that they've been summoned from all over the world by a guy who calls their troops "suckers and losers" to take part in a pep rally.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

This is what CEOs of failing companies do to make themselves seem important on their sinking ship.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago

Wait .. a white supremacist who rejects Viking Age cultural appropriation‽

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 29 points 2 days ago

I mean. so he says. beards are required with all kinds of religions.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The beard thing is targeted at POC in the military. Most black men can't closely shave without catastrophic damage to their faces.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Oh I know. It's just unusual for a tatted up white supremacist to not have some misplaced affinity for Vikings, based on the Nazified version of them rather than the reality. So for Hegseth to specifically call out a rejection of Nordic aesthetic is odd. The pagan part of his callout is weird, because Christian Vikings were very much a thing, too.

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[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

No beards on generals? Must be the cope from having this handsome gentleman beat their asses all the way to Dixie and back! U.S. Grant

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

I feel like the chance of a military coup in the USA just went up 1000%. I’m sure there’s plenty of MAGAs in that military but there’s gotta be a lot who take their oath and tradition very seriously.

[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 days ago

If they did they would already be doing something. There's a line in that oath about protecting from domestic threats.

[-] Trevita17@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

If they are doing something (and I'm confident that someone is. Likely quite a few of them), then we won't know until they put the plan into action. That information leaking right now would be disastrous.

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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So, I thought this was going to be some secret strategy briefing heralding some awful new global project. Instead it’s a couple little boys peacocking around bragging about how masculine they are to a captive audience.

I wonder how the generals and admirals feel about being pons in this loser’s bruised ego theater?

The least cool thing a person can do is brag about how cool they are. Same thing applies to masculinity. When you preform like this, you’re expressing how weak, afraid, unsure and incapable you are. That’s the maga cultural movement in a nutshell.

Fuck every single person in civilization leadership at this moment.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Were you trying to say "pawns?"

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[-] DoGeeseSeeGod 28 points 2 days ago

"Military leaders will need to pass height and weight tests each year."

Each year? Height tests? How many ppl losing height year to year?

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Trump took the stage after him, noting that: “I’ve never walked into a room so silent before.”

The president, who famously avoided the military draft multiple time, then gave a far more subdued address, talking about everything from Joe Biden’s autopen, his love of the word “tariffs”, and the threat of nuclear weapons. 

“I call it the N word. There are two N words and you can’t use either of them,” Trump said to an awkwardly silent audience.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“I call it the N word. There are two N words and you cant use either of them” Trump said to an awkwardly silent audience

This timeline has truly jumped the shark. Like on the one hand we are so fucked, but on the other hand reality has become something straight off the cutting room floor of a mockumentary series

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[-] halloween_spookster@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

I don't think pissing off the entire military leadership with something that didn't need to be said (or could have been an email) is going to make them particularly keen to support you...

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Did you see all that winning in that room? So much winning. Shave. Don’t be fat. And then the orange man rambled about fucking nonsense for like an hour. I mean he said literally nothing coherent or relevant to the meeting. I was so fucking inspired and filled with warrior ethos I shit myself. It was awesome!

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[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

He literally gave an example of a good reason to have a beard (special forces). This shit is racism. Full stop. Everyone I knew in the military who had a shaving chit was a dark green Marine.

It's so thinly veiled that it's raising my blood pressure. Those guys (with the shaving chits) were damn fine Marines. Fuck this administration!

[-] jason_is_back@tucson.social 29 points 2 days ago

If this is the case then it is to drive out black people. Most black people get no shave chits due ingrown hairs. Unless you are on the front lines, who gives a fuck. Fuck President kid fucker and his drunk lap dog.

[-] Bonifratz@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

How are fascists always so cringe

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's like a Nazi Ted Talk.

Thanks melania for making them look like Nazi foot soldiers too:

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

Ugh im up to the part where trump comes on. He is so delusional. Thinks everyone agrees with him. He is going on and on on gulf of america and talks like anyone but him uses it. Talks about how he built the us military and then it went to shamble for 4 years and magically is the best again. The magic of pure, unadulterated bullshit. He called putin easy so that was funny. Now he is telling them how they don't have to worry about him ever any wars he starts. Course that is typical for republicans. Our submarines are undetectable but the enemy ones are totally detectable. Oh and our submarines go above and below the water (presumably he is saying others don't do that?). He said at one point he was with the fire department. Oh and people are shooting at firemen on their ladders apparently. Also its animals shooting at them. Seriously find this on youtube and fastforward to trumps stuff. Jeez he is talking about how he calls biden the autopen and then is talking like he never uses it. Oh and hes proud of his pubic hair signature. Then he throws in that he had hunter sign stuff. This clown drives me nuts. He literally just did an indian accent explaining how he stopped india and pakistan from fighting. This talk is like a great example of trump talking. Oh he got rowanda war done. He has stopped 8 and the nobel prize will go to a writer talking about his great deeds but he does not want it but he should get it.....and on and on. Oh and ukraine/russia is easy. So easy he has not done it yet because he knows he can do it whenever because so easy. The furthest he ever saw two people in front of him was inside the oval office apparently. Can't be further. nope. nope. can't be done. These generals im pretty sure have been seated there for over two hours with no break that I can tell. Oh good news trumps says his tariffs have taken in so much money the us is rich again. He thinks we should have more battleships because he saw them in pictures and they look cool. now spouting 51st state bullshit. hes saying they want to be us because of our great tariffs. Now he is saying the us does not build ships only submarines. this man is our president people. sorry for this but you know it needed one of those threads like the state of the union.

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago

I am glad that the Trump Regime is so horrible at instilling loyalty within the old guard...though I could do without the secondhand embarrassment.

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