Back in my day console prices would go down after being on the market for a few years
Yeah but back then we weren't winning™
Back in your day needless tarriffs weren't a thing.
President Reagan decided Friday to impose punitive 100% tariffs on a wide variety of goods produced by Japanese electronic giants in retaliation for Tokyo’s failure to abide by the semiconductor trade agreement between the two nations.
In approving a recommendation Thursday by the Administration’s top economic officials, the White House decided to put the tariffs into effect about April 17, less than two weeks before Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone is scheduled to begin a visit to the United States aimed at easing trade frictions.
The tariffs will be targeted to bring in as much as $300 million and designed to punish such firms as NEC Corp., Hitachi Ltd., Fujitsu Ltd., Toshiba Corp. and Oki Corp. by either pricing some of their goods out of the American market or by forcing them to accept substantial losses on U.S. sales.
Was that not a measured response to a failure to abide by an established agreement?
Five years... in the OG days we'd be prepping for the next generation about now.
Then things got weird around the 2008 financial crash. :(
(US dates)
Atari 2600 - 1977
Atari 5200 - 1982
Atari 7800 - 1986
Atari Jaguar - 1993
NES - 1985
SNES - 1990
N64 - 1996
Gamecube - 2001
Wii - 2006
Wii U - 2012
Switch - 2017
Switch 2 - 2025
Sega Master System - 1986
Genesis - 1989
Sega CD - 1992
32X - 1994
Saturn - 1995
Dreamcast - 1999
NEC Turbo Grafx 16 / CD - 1989
NEC Turbo Duo - 1993
Playstation - 1995
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006
PS4 - 2013
PS4 Pro - 2016
PS5 - 2020
PS5 Pro - 2024
Xbox - 2001
Xbox 360 - 2005
Xbox One - 2013
Xbox One X - 2017
Xbox Series X - 2020
I feel like part of it was that the console revisions past 2008 aren't as big of a deal as they were before. You also had publishers start producing games for multiple generations of consoles at the same time.
Games took way longer to make in the 7th gen and later, so 5 years for a console generation didn't cut it anymore.
Back in my day, we elected scumbags who at least wanted to preserve stability and international trade relations so that at least a balance could be preserved long enough to nudge policy where people broadly wanted it.
This is Republicans and Trump's doing btw.
No no, I'm sure it's the fault of the trans kids. And the immigrants. I'm sure prices will go down if the US just cracks down harder on these threats to gaming.
edit: do some of you dipshits have literal brain damage? If I have to add /s tags to something like this, it's proving that we have NO hope for the future ffs, take your medication and talk to someone.
You're not wrong.
Here's how I think it's going to go down.
Everyone in the world suffers from higher prices.
They’ll find out it’s a Japanese company They’ll blame Chinese-Americans
I love how this is one of those things that sounds like an absurdist joke but it's actual realistic analysis based on current trends.
But the shouty man on TV said tariffs were good! Why vibeo janes cost more?
Trump: tariffs ARE good. For budget, not for you, though...
Bad for the budget too, because a shrinking economy shrinks tax revenues from other sources.
Good for the sovereign wealth black hole of money though! Wherever that ends up getting spent, likely on gold plating the jumbo plane bribe he accepted.
Well, that’s tariffs for you. Completely expected, though a ~10% bump on the PS5 doesn’t adjust for all the tariff increase IIRC.
Pretty sure this is due to the dollar weakening by 10%.
Both? Probably both.
Positive feedback from Trump trying to fix an economy he is beyond understanding.
*capitalism for you.
the tariffs are part of the overall system which is designed to exploit folks a few rich owners can profit.
Unfortunately Christmas is gonna be rough time for a lot of Americans this year thanks to the trump tax
Americans need to boycott Christmas. Make memories and handmade presents instead of sending money at billionaires
That's their fault for voting for Trump or not voting at all
Tens of millions of us voted against it and did our best to convince those around us.
On the whole, we deserve what we’re getting. We asked for it. I just hope the rest of the world doesn’t forget that so many of us tried.
Literal millions of us (myself included) voted "correctly" for Harris. Blue no matter who. We did our part for your petty ass purity test and we're still getting fucked.
Must be nice to live in a world where people only experience the results of who they voted for.
Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Reduce comes first for a reason.
You do not need a PS5. You don't need a new console - if you need a console at all.
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A okay gaming PC withis not cheap. To some people, console is the only way
Just buy used PS5.
My PC is not a "gaming" PC. I play games on it. I have access to a nearly 50-year library of games. Just because I don't have the newest and shiniest doesn't mean I don't have tons of fun games available. And I said 'if you need a console at all'. If you are determined to play video games and you don't want them on a PC, phone, or tablet, then fine. There are thrift stores, there's eBay (though that's loaded with scalpers and scum even more than the thrift grifters), there are many ways to buy a used console. But I also stand by the thought that if what you have is working and being fun, keep using it. If the corporations have made it not fun, either go to older hardware they can't do that to, or get homebrew set up.
Don't just keep it on a shelf "in case". Don't store it. And for the love of anything good, don't just discard it.
Reduce. If you think you've reduced "enough", find something else to reduce.
de minimus tariff exemption (imported goods valued at under $800) ends at the end of the month because trump said so a few days ago
this is why
This does not only affect playstation. Anyone who doesnt have a stockpile of inventory already imported are gonna be affected very soon.
Norwegian postal service will not send packages with less than $800 dollars (except for private packages). Many businesses will not send anything to the US in the coming months.
remember when consoles got cheaper as they aged? ....and eventually they'd hit that $99 sweet spot in the last few quarters of life? and used game stores were overstocked with older cheap used games....
That's why all of the major players have been frothing at the mouth to get rid of discs
I'm gonna wait until 11:59 to order my PS5 and then list it tomorrow as a "limited edition pre-increase model" for $150 more. Then Sony will hire me as their CEO.
Make gaming great again!
Somehow I think this generation of consoles are going to be suffering.
They will sell fine everywhere except the US. I don't even want a switch2 because the bullshit Nintendo did with the virtual carts. God it's a fucking PITA to even play my first gen switches because I have to be sure both consoles are powered on and connected to the Internet to "activate" the cart that was active on the other.
They will sell fine everywhere except the US.
Nah, tariffs didn't help, but there are other economic factors and trends here that have been slowly at work for a very long time.
"Going to be"? I feel like this generation already failed at the starting line. I can't name a single PS5 game I'd want to play that doesn't already look and run better on ~~my~~ PC. The Switch 2 is running on several generations-old hardware so it's already a non-starter. And Microsoft screwed up their naming convention so badly that I don't even know what the latest Xbox is called.
Hell, this console generation is somehow already five years old, and I still don't know anyone who actually owns one of these systems. Everyone I know is still using their PS4s, XBones, Switches, and gaming laptops with 10, 20, and 30 series Nvidia GPUs. Hell, I haven't seen any hype for modern console gaming since the XBOX 360/PS3 era. No one cares about owning the latest and greatest gaming system anymore. Everyone's happy with what they have.
I can't name a single PS5 game I'd want to play that doesn't already look and run better on my PC
The keyword here is "my".
It's not just the console generation that is suffering. PC gaming is dying too. Crypto dealer the first blow, now AI. I'm still running an RX580 that I bought for $180 back in 2019. I was planning on buying a 9700XT at launch this year. Still not a great value- an MSRP of $600. Adjusted for inflation that's still ~2.6x the price and it's not going to give me 2.6x the performance. But even then it was impossible to find a card for $600 - even months later the cheapest one on nowinstock is $700, and those are hard to find. That's JUST the GPU - you still need another grand or more to build a decent PC around it. Even with this price increase, the base PS5 is $550.
I'm not trying to make this a console vs PC thing. They all suck right now. The only good values for gaming is on the fringes. The Steam Deck was an incredible value when it launched, and only looks better today. Other cheap, low-powered solutions like Chinese handhelds and android TV boxes loaded with pirated old ROM's. Mini-PC's that are good enough to handle 5-10 year old PC games... At 1080p or less with the settings turned down bit. Maybe an Xbox Series S might be a decent short-term value, especially if you are a person who loves game pass or just wants to play free games like Fortnight.
It's looking bleak. Not just videogames but everything. Food, medicine, clothing, housing.
Have you all said thank you yet for the tariffs?
I just got a PS3 for free
I once traded someone my PS3 for his PS4.
I traded up, and he had two PS4s and no PS3 and he wanted one of each. It was a win-win.
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