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submitted 3 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

The poll indicates support for the more aggressive position Newsom has taken in standing up to Donald Trump, particularly over a plan by Republicans in Texas to redraw their state's congressional seat map in the hopes of winning more seats in midterm elections next year.

The battle to become the 2028 presidential election candidate will likely set the new direction for the Democratic Party as it struggles with net favorability at what one recent poll showed to be a three-year low. Newsom has not formally announced his candidacy.

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[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 69 points 3 months ago

My fear is that the politics-as-sport metaphor has become too literal. He's getting attention by hitting at Trump and more Democrats should be doing that, but his actual policies and stances are uninspiring and offensive. He's another pro-corporate, pro-wealth, pro-status-quo white guy whose best quality is he isn't Trump.

[-] Atropos@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Completely agree. I long for the day I can finally for FOR something rather than AGAINST something.

On the other hand, not-trump is a pretty damn good quality.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Welcome to every president since Reagan.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 3 months ago

Yeah, let's put up another California democrat that's too centrist to attract progressives and too California to attract middle America, it worked so well last time...

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago

It only makes sense to those who only think hilldog and Harris lost because they were women not because they ran God awful campaigns

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[-] Taldan@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A month ago, I would have said the same thing. Right now though, he's the only candidate I see standing up to Trump

I don't particularly like his policies, but I want someone either very progressive, or willing to get dirty

The current regime is far too fascist for me to worry about whether someone is progressive enough

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago

It's almost as if the people who find Republican issues compelling would rather vote for a full Republican than a Republican-lite. Maybe if he curses while doubling down on Zionism he will somehow reach the 3rd rail 🙄

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[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 50 points 3 months ago
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[-] kerrigan778 39 points 3 months ago

The DNC will die before it learns a lesson.

[-] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 33 points 3 months ago

SEE! The ONLY way for Democrats to Win is to be as RIGHT WING as Possible!

[-] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 31 points 3 months ago

If this is the basket the Democrats put their eggs into I sense 8 years of the couch fucker in our futures. Newsome fucking sucks. At best he panders to progressives with one hand while he signs yet another shady bullshit deal behind closed doors like every single other politician alive with his other.

You think it's just a coincidence that all the money they raised with that benefit concert happened to go into non-profits that his wife runs? You think its been an accident that those effected by the fires haven't seen a penny from that concert?

California has some of the most corrupt and inept leadership it has ever had. More money than ever is being spent on things like homelessness and public transit projects, but strangely both the public transit and homeless problem have only been getting worse.

Fuck Gavin Newsome.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 3 months ago

Idk how he would pander to progressives after mostly vetoing progressive laws in California then going on an anti trans kick once Trump won

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Newsom is, and always has been, a slimy neoliberal greaseball. Not only does he not pander to progressives, he is the pinnacle of Democratic Party leftward obstructionism. Newsom serves nobody but Newsom. His current act is nothing more than the latest strategy to bolster his Presidential prospects after openly pandering to the far right failed to gain him any ground.

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[-] rozodru@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

I swear US Democrats learn absolutely nothing. All you have to do is jingle some keys in their faces and they'll applaud.

This is a guy who wants California Cities to force homeless people to move every 3 days. This is a guy who has threatened to cut funding to cities that don't "crack down" on homeless people.

This is a guy who simply has one of his interns to write funny twitter posts and NOW he's suddenly "presidential material".

And some people honestly wonder how Trump was re-elected.

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[-] oxysis 23 points 3 months ago

People really seem to not care that he is transphobic… well guess I’m gonna die either way now. Wasn’t a good life, wasn’t a long one either.

[-] mathemachristian 23 points 3 months ago

Pretty sad to see all these bluemagas already prepared to lose and suck it up and vote for gruesome newsom. Why would the dems give you anything if you're prepared to do whatever they ask of you anyway??? Hey boss I would like a salary increase but dont worry if you cant I'm gonna work here forever no matter what...

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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Would I prefer a President Newsom to a President trump? Yes. Is Newsom trash that won’t actually change anything about how this country is broken or won’t change how corrupt the Democratic Party is, or won’t meaningfully improve Americans’ material conditions in a sustainable way? Yes.

People need to understand that what neoliberals like Newsom represent, is a perpetuation of everything that sucks about modern American governance. He might perform rhetorically in a satisfying way, some of the time, but he LITERALLY stands for NOTHING other than solidifying his own power and facilitating ’markets’. That’s it. While he is better at the speaking part of this job than some other Democratic Party leaders, understand that words are as deep as this dickhead gets. He and his corporate consultants will not actually improve anything, won’t meaningfully roll back fascism, won’t hold Republicans accountable, won’t reign in or regulate corporations, won’t give you healthcare, won’t stop the genocide, won’t fix media, won’t reform campaign funding, won’t build infrastructure, won’t prosecute business fraud, and on and on.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

If you want to see Newsome policy, look at PG&E. He talked a big game around 2019-2020 about holding them accountable after entire towns were destroyed, hundreds killed due to poor equipment replacement and maintenance practices. They were gonna be made public, fined into oblivion, etc..

He's taken hundreds of thousands (could be millions) from them at this point and has not only created legislation to protect them against liability, but to destroy the consumer friendly solar buyback programs. He's actually actively fucking residential rooftop solar in the state.

When people actually listened to how he thought on his podcast, they hated it. Now he's flipped to this shit, and it's working, and I hate it. This is where democratic national money will flow, into the rich boys pockets, rather than a dude like Mamdani.

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[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

The new poll, conducted by Echelon Insights, has Newsom in second place among potential Democratic candidates with 13 percent support, behind former Vice President Kamala Harris with 26 percent.

The number one spot right now is the woman who lost the last election, while number two is the guy who's been in the news lately. This is basically just measuring name recognition. It's more than 3 years until the election, a frontrunner is meaningless at this point.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Lefties: got anybody yet?

See, this is what having a national party can do for you. Getting some ink 100years out.

To be clear, I’m not supporting this particular candidate or messaging, but I am saying if you’re planning to spike the anti-fascist movement again, please have a plan, and a name at least.

We’re years out. Start now. Next September is too late to yoink the midterms. September 2028 is too late to complain about how much Democrats love teh geniside. Start Now. Have a plan and a name.

[-] mathemachristian 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

any anti-fascist movement spearheaded by out and proud transphobe and anti-homeless firebrand newsom is already spiked...

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[-] Soup@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If the DNC wants to win they should put someone up who will do that. Mamdani is actively showing them what will hand them the win and Harris showed them what will keep them from it. They seem to be continuing with the Harris strategy.

Why AOC isn’t putting herself up for it and starting now I don’t know. She’s popular and well liked and has the right ideas, it would go pretty well. You’re right that whoever it is needs to start now, though. Of course, I did love that Harris coming up so late left the GOP completely lost as to what to do since they never really had a platform of good ideas.

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[-] TehWorld@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

It might be a less popular opinion, but I’m really hopeful that Tim Walz gets the nod. He’s actually a human as opposed to a politician.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 months ago

Great. He's gonna Hilary-up the election again.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Gross.

I knew after the 2nd day of Newsom dick riding on reddit that this is what the democrats will shove down voters throats when the time comes.

What would the democratic party do if they didnt have the republicans to use as a cudgel against thier voters?

The blue conservatives in this comment section are suffering from a terminal case of Stockholm syndrome.

[-] IdontplaytheTrombone@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

There's no way he would win an election.

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[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 months ago

Performative slime chasing the presidency like Corey Booker.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago

Disgusting how people want to support someone who is pro-corporate and betrays trans rights.

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Newsom is a corpo's idea of a progressive candidate. That is, he's not a progressive candidate.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Americans are so fucking dumb oh my god

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[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 months ago

It's unsurprising Newsom is leading, given all the media coverage he's been given.

Anyway, any poll result now for 2028 is meaningless. A lot's going to happen between now and then, and non-centrist candidates will probably emerge, and possibly do well.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 3 months ago

Newsom Fetterman 2028. That's sure to fix things right up.

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[-] prole 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To everyone complaining: this is the fucking primary. This is when you bring out your leftist candidate that can represent us against literal fascists.

Stop fucking whining and do something about it before it's too late, Newsom wins the primary, and we all have to listen to you whine for another goddamn decade about how Democrats don't represent us.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

Just tried that in 2016. Debbie Schultz and Hillary decided to quell Bernie fervor, elevated Trump, and secured years of Trump and a fascist devolution. Utterly embarrassing. The Democratic party is not going to stop fascism.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 3 months ago

Until the Democratic Party just ignores primary results they don't like.

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