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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago

In the words of Miyazaki:

Whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is whatsoever. I am utterly disgusted. If you really want to make creepy stuff, you can go ahead and do it. I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 hours ago

outliers badly served by advanced averaging machine

Who knew

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

AI is the new crypto by the ceos and c-suites, sorry but theres no market for it for a regular customer base, and they admitted its costing them alot more money using AI than actually saving or even profitting from it. its actually no wonder the people who fall for AI /crypto are mostly conservatives.

[-] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Actual computer scientists should also be included with those groups.

[-] SoleInvictus 2 points 2 hours ago

Disabled, vehemently anti-AI enby here. The only thing I'm good at professionally is being a great big brain, so taking knowledge work away from me makes me angry.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

"Some groups like bullshit less than others" says survey. "This is why bullshit is bad." says author. "Here's my post-hoc reasoning for why I got these results."

[-] svcg 37 points 6 hours ago

Roughly 50% of transgender and/or non-binary people are software developers and roughly 50% are furry artists, so it makes sense we would be more wary of AI.

I use arch, btw.

[-] Sasha 7 points 5 hours ago

Trans nonby software dev who dated a furry artist, my disdain for AI knows no limits.

I use Nobara, btw. (Is Arch good I've never looked into it)

[-] Rodancoci@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

It can be a tiny bit involved to install but if you know your way around Linux already it's perfectly doable. The arch wiki is a great reference for MANY things and it has a dedicated page with installation instructions.

I like that it's lightweight because it comes with the bare minimum for a working Linux install and everything on top of that must be explicitly installed by you. I also love pacman (the package manager). It's never borked anything for me and I've yet to be dropped into a dependency hell in 6+ years of using it.

[-] dropped_packet@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

I got in a dependency loop one time. It was my own damn fault 😂

[-] seralth@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Never anger the cook, the janitor, or the handyman or some such.

But also never anger the gay bi sexual half kitsune half dragon werewolf that controls your access to the internet.

DO provide them with warm rocks to bask on and loads of weed and warm blankets. Bonus points if you can provide these things with out having to have direct communication and tire their social battery out.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Sysadmin is an adequate pastiche, you don't need to specify the exact queer animal person they are.

[-] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Because some are artisans and see that their work is being pillaged for AI "training".

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 22 points 6 hours ago

These findings are consistent with a growing body of research showing how AI systems often misclassifyperpetuate discrimination toward or otherwise harmtrans and disabled people. In particular, identities that defy categorization clash with AI systems that are inherently designed to reduce complexity into rigid categories. In doing so, AI systems simplify identities and can replicate and reinforce bias and discrimination – and people notice.

Makes sense.

These systems exist to sand off the rough edges of real life artifacts and interactions, and these are people who’ve spent their whole lives being treated like an imperfection that just needs to be smoothed out.

Why would you not be wary?

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm none of those however I believe they are right to view it negatively. The rest of us should be just a wary.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 68 points 9 hours ago

God, the number of people here who don't know what "more likely" means is insane. Just because you aren't trans, enby or disabled doesn't mean the study is bullshit because you hate AI. It means that if you walk up to a random person and ask them about AI, they're more likely to hate it if they exist in one of those groups.

Secondly, studies like this have value because they can clue people into issues that a community is having. If everyone is neutral about a thing, except for disabled people (who hate it), then maybe that means that the thing is having a disproportionately negative impact on disabled people. Studies like this are not unlike saying "hey, there's smoke over there, there might be a fire."

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

The thing is, EVERYONE hates AI except for a very small number of executives and the few tech people who are falling for the bullshit the same way so many fell for crypto.

It's like saying a survey indicates that trans people are more likely to hate American ISP's. Everyone hates them and trans people are underrepresented in the population of ISP shareholders and executives. It doesn't say anything about the trans community. It doesn't provide any actionable or useful information.

It's stating something uninteresting but applying a coat of rainbow paint to try to get clicks and engagement.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago

The average person is not informed enough to even be aware of the problems with AI. Look at how aggressively AI is being marketed, and realize that this marketing works.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 54 points 9 hours ago

You might be living in an echo chamber. Most Americans use AI at least sometimes and plenty use it regularly according to studies.

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

We could argue all day over who is experiencing reality or who is in an echo chamber.

Pew Research found that US adults who are not "AI Experts" are more likely to view AI as negative and harmful.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 26 points 9 hours ago

We could argue all day over who is experiencing reality or who is in an echo chamber.

We could, or you could read the article where it addresses exactly that point. Most demographics are slightly positive on AI, with some neutral and only nonbinary people as slightly negative. The representative US sample is at 4.5/7.

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

https://fedia.io/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/2531490/-/comment/11832636

You might be living in an echo chamber. Most Americans use AI at least sometimes and plenty use it regularly according to studies.

You literally are right here accusing me of being in an echo chamber for thinking Americans view AI negatively, then when I back that up with a source you are now... Claiming that the article says that.

Except that the whole "most demographics are positive on AI" piece that you toss in counters your own countering of my disagreement. You're talking in circles here.

It's also worth noting this article is using a sample size of 700 and doesn't go all that heavily into the methodology. The author describes themself as a "social computing scholar" and states that they purposefully oversampled these minority groups.

The conclusion is nothing but wasted time and clicks. You're in this thread telling people to "read the article" and I'm in here to warn people that it's not worth their time to do so.

And this is part of a trend I've noticed on Lemmy lately: people posting obviously bad articles, users commenting that the articles are bad, and usually about 3-4 other users in the comments arguing and trying to drive more engagement to the article. More clicks, more ad revenue.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

No, it's interesting.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago

Smart bunch it would seem.

Fuck AI

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Why the FUCK do we need to start splintering this with identity politics? Seriously name one good reason why this isn’t a distraction from the class war. Just one.

[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 106 points 10 hours ago

Only corporate executives benefit from AI.

Everyone else is harmed, both directly and indirectly, and it makes the customer experience far worse because workers are replaced by chatbots that are incapable of understanding.

From what I've seen, the only people that have a positive view of AI are those who see themselves as the master of others. The trans, nonbinary, & disabled people in this study are very unlikely to fit that mold.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Oppressed people don't like the walled garden information tools made and profited from by the people using them as a scapegoat distraction for their fleecing of society?

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I think a lot of women feel this way too

[-] augustus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Yes, generative AI is a normative neurotypical triangulation machine. Why would this be thought of favorably?

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 8 points 7 hours ago

ITT: "this study doesn't say anything interesting about ME, it must be bullshit!!"

[-] Sertou@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

That's fair, because AI is biased against them.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 30 points 10 hours ago

Trans lady here, appalled by AI! A lot of the middle management I work with are eager for it, and since I work in M365 administration, my boss keeps compelling me to flip the CoPilot switch to “on” for people.

I hate it.

[-] poke@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago

I wonder if the correlation is that these groups tend to be more informed.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

No, it's that AI has a white male bias.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

it's because we actually listened to the plot of the matrix

[-] morto@piefed.social 8 points 9 hours ago

That's interesting. I feel like a lone voice in my university, trying to explain to people that using LLMs to do research tasks isn't a good idea for several reasons, but I'd never imagine that being disabled would put me into a group more likely to think like that. If I had to guess, I'd suggest that there's possibly a strong network effect being abused in our social environment to make people get into the AI hype, and we, the ones who live less connected to the "standard" social norms, tend to become less vulnerable to it.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It may also be that disabled, transgender and nonbinary people are more aware of:

  1. The use of AI to reduce people's employment opportunities, which are already tough enough for people in these groups.
  2. The tendency of AI to reproduce the prejudices present in its training materials. If everyone's relying on AI then historical prejudices are going to be perpetuated just because LLMs are regurgitation machines.
[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

•~intersectionality*-*_

[-] db2@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

I'm none of those things and so-called AI is utter shit.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Same way the other way around. Remember when grok went full mechahitler?

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Hi. Haven't read the article. Straight middle aged white guy here. I too also view AI negatively.

If trans, nonbinary, or disabled people view AI negatively, it's not because they're trans, nonbinary or disabled. It's because AI is terrible, and threatens (and already is proving to) make all of our lives terrible for the sole sake of giving billionaires a few extra pennies.

Though I will say, if trans, nonbinary and disabled people have any extra issues with AI making their life specifically worse, that's not caused by AI itself. It's caused by the wealthy CHOOSING to use AI to make their lives worse.

This doesn't need to happen. None of this needs to happen. Google doesn't need entire campuses dedicated to AI with special power requirements. This is all bullshit.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 hours ago

The survey discovered that people in those groups are more likely to view AI negatively than those in other groups.

If trans, nonbinary, or disabled people view AI negatively, it’s not because they’re trans, nonbinary or disabled. It’s because AI is terrible, and threatens (and already is proving to) make all of our lives terrible for the sole sake of giving billionaires a few extra pennies.

People in these groups may have different or additional reasons for viewing AI negatively that are not common to other groups. It's a question for further research why they tend to view AI more negatively. It might very well be because they're trans, nonbinary or disabled - perhaps for conscious reasons or perhaps because of other factors. The survey shows that there are more questions to be asked and that it would be worth paying attention to the experiences of these groups.

[-] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

TIL, I am transgender, non binary and disabled. That is why I hate AI slop.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

You are committing a logical fallacy called "affirming the consequent".

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