This is so fucking embarrassing.
And tacky as fuck.
Look over there while I distract you from the fact that I'm a president that rapes children.
I'm all for dunking on him but it looks like he was given it, and I haven't seen any other evidence suggesting the medal was intended to be given back: https://youtu.be/b5I2adhIn7U?t=174
Fake news isn't less bad just because it's "your side" doing it
Retroactively gifting it doesn't erase that he stole it
If you have credible evidence saying it was only gifted retroactively, please link it. The video evidence does not appear support that interpretation of events.
Why wouldn't they announce it ahead of time, or during the ceremony?
Don't be naive.
I have linked a video showing what actually happened, linked a verified signatory of the International Fact Checking Network and member of the European Fact-Checking Standards Network saying that it was given to him and that the submitted headline is misleading, and your response is "don't be naive".
Are you guys fucking for real? What the fuck even counts as credible evidence to you anymore!?
How many leaders of the host country got a medal before him?
Will they hand them out to future hosts as well?
Bingo question of the year.
Do you not understand how PR works? If they gave it to him, the President of the United States, who was literally there in person, do you really think he would have just slyly pocketed it? Or do you think they would have said, "we are giving this to you"?
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a good example of how certain people come to believe in conspiracy theories.
They are faced with a seemingly overwhelming argument that destroys some fictional narrative they chose in their head, probably because they misremember or misunderstood some basic fact behind that narrative in the past (like not listening to a thing during math and sciences classes).
Re-evaluation of all the facts in light of new information would be too taxing, and probably lead to an undesirable outcome even if completed successfully (like realising they were wrong, and possibly start questioning themselves), so a different strategy is employed.
This consists of cherry picking a very minute aspect of a bigger picture (here, that trump puts the medal in his pocket) and spin a whole narrative around it.
This works surprisingly well, at least for them, since their brain has either forgotten the conflicting facts, or outright fails to recognise their glaring ignorance about all other possibilities to explain that minute aspect differently (like the fact that the guy handing over the medal to trump is talking to him, in what looks very much like the act of gifting him the medal).
Where this unfortunately breaks down is when other people, not so reality-impared, challenge them by pointing out the glaring factual omissions.
This is usually seen as a personal attack, like they're being called out individually and being called unpleasant things (which can be usually the case), and will respond by questioning the other person's character, intelligence and/or intentions.
Oh, and downvoting.
So what do you think was the order of events here? You think the plan was...
"Mr President, we're going to do the ceremony, and while we're doing it, we want you to slyly slip this gift we're giving to you into your pocket. Make sure most of the people in the stands can't see what you did until they read about it the next day. That's how we honor people at FIFA"
I'm genuinely curious what you think happened. Truly.
I have no idea what you're referring to about personal attacks and down voting. I posted that comment and hadn't returned to this thread until just now. Really could not care less.
Yes it does learn human interaction.
The guy asks for it back, goes it the pocket and he shrugs it off.
That's not giving it stupido
Ask Cole Palmer what he thinks since this was a totally normal thing to do and not in anyway confusing.
Also I'm 100% calling bullshit and this gift was to save face. Chelsea players we're pissed he was even there.
This doesn't contradict the article. It explicitly says he was given the medal by Infantino in the subheader and the article body.
Yes, but the implication of "given the medal to look at" and "pocketing FIFA medal" is that Trump "stole" it or wasn't supposed to keep it, which I haven't seen supported by a credible source yet.
Edit: regarding your own edit (adding the second image), I found no information at the linked source supporting the sentence as presented.
Historically. Do they give those medals to other country leaders or nonplayers.
Find that answer and the truth will be yours
Also nobody asking why the fuck he would be gifted a medal in the first place? Medals typically have meaning behind them. They represent achievement. What the fuck did Trump do to earn that medal, other than show up to the ceremony?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised, he's been getting gifted medals from stupid fucking morons for doing fuck all for the past 10 goddamn years. Of course he would think that being handed a medal to look at is the same thing as being presented with one to keep.
He's a thief, through and through.
Trump is a convicted felon, promoted beans at the resolute desk, received millions of dollars in inauguration fundraising from big tech, has his own cryptocurrency which he promoted by promising presidential access, and is being called a madman by economists for the least stable US economic policy since Bretton Woods.
Trump is not like "other country leaders". Historically the above would be disqualifying for "other country leaders". You can't cover news about him like "other country leaders". I almost can't believe that you're saying that you can.
This is the complete most idiotic, moronic and stupid argument ever presented in my like 20 years of being a dumbass arguing on the Internet.
Donald Trump is different so he didn't steal the medal.
This is your argument.
No. He stole the fucking medal and the other guy understood all of what you're saying, decided it isn't worth it and moved on.
But he stole the medal.
Pretty sure the ad guy for the Independent website posted this.
When you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the medal. You can do anything.
I like that he closed his eyes. It's the little kid logic of, "If I can't see you, you can't see me." Truly, a stable genius.
Dementia. Not that he hasn't always been like this, speaking from experience, it just sometimes makes the true self harder to hide for better and for worse.
I don't think so, Putin did a similar thing with a Superbowl ring years ago. It's an alpha male thing, like his handshakes and all the other bullshit he does.
The president of the united states really steals? no dignity
He's a thief? Wow, the person who steals from a charity is a thief!!?!! Anyways you guys better watch him around top secret documents, you don't want to steal any of them (and then store them in an unlocked toilet next to a fax machine so he can easily fax them to other hostile governments for money or just because he's an imbecile).
Need another source on this. Nowhere else is reporting this
It's fake. Kinda? He didn't steal a medal.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-trump-keep-the-fifa-trophy/
Apparently he did give a fake/new trophy and the FIFA gave him the real one/old one.
Yeah I mean it's not like FIFA has kissed up to a wealthy dictator in the past at all...
I hope all Americans are proud of the man they keep as their president.
Every time I see him in public, all I can think of is how I'm so hoping to see his head explode from a sniper's bullet. I don't think that could be described as Pride.
Old people steal.
The US President reduced to petty theft, how befitting.
What do you mean "reduced"? Do you think he was ever more than a crook?
I was referring more to the position itself.
Although that's not much better is it?
Infantino is president of FIFA. FIFA is legendarily corrupt. Infantino defrauded FIFA and used money to buy himself shit. Infantino enjoys the corruption and attention from being at the top. That's just how FIFA rolls.
At worst Trump stole the medal and trophy from a guy who doesn't give a shit. Infantino changed the rules to put his name on the trophy, that's all he cares about. He's cut from the same cloth as Trump.
At least Trump didn't take anything from people who matter. The players weren't screwed by Trump. FIFA screws the players and Trump stole bullshit from FIFA. Fuck them both for making the sport about themselves.
Trump is Smaug.
This was after he stole the trophy itself ....
Thief?
Clearly, Trump is the president with the most sports trophys.
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