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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago

This is so fucking embarrassing.

And tacky as fuck.

[-] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Look over there while I distract you from the fact that I'm a president that rapes children.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 68 points 1 year ago

I'm all for dunking on him but it looks like he was given it, and I haven't seen any other evidence suggesting the medal was intended to be given back: https://youtu.be/b5I2adhIn7U?t=174

Fake news isn't less bad just because it's "your side" doing it

Retroactively gifting it doesn't erase that he stole it

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 17 points 1 year ago

If you have credible evidence saying it was only gifted retroactively, please link it. The video evidence does not appear support that interpretation of events.

[-] prole 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why wouldn't they announce it ahead of time, or during the ceremony?

Don't be naive.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 30 points 1 year ago

I have linked a video showing what actually happened, linked a verified signatory of the International Fact Checking Network and member of the European Fact-Checking Standards Network saying that it was given to him and that the submitted headline is misleading, and your response is "don't be naive".

Are you guys fucking for real? What the fuck even counts as credible evidence to you anymore!?

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How many leaders of the host country got a medal before him?

Will they hand them out to future hosts as well?

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 year ago

Bingo question of the year.

[-] prole 24 points 1 year ago

Do you not understand how PR works? If they gave it to him, the President of the United States, who was literally there in person, do you really think he would have just slyly pocketed it? Or do you think they would have said, "we are giving this to you"?

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a good example of how certain people come to believe in conspiracy theories.

They are faced with a seemingly overwhelming argument that destroys some fictional narrative they chose in their head, probably because they misremember or misunderstood some basic fact behind that narrative in the past (like not listening to a thing during math and sciences classes).

Re-evaluation of all the facts in light of new information would be too taxing, and probably lead to an undesirable outcome even if completed successfully (like realising they were wrong, and possibly start questioning themselves), so a different strategy is employed.

This consists of cherry picking a very minute aspect of a bigger picture (here, that trump puts the medal in his pocket) and spin a whole narrative around it.

This works surprisingly well, at least for them, since their brain has either forgotten the conflicting facts, or outright fails to recognise their glaring ignorance about all other possibilities to explain that minute aspect differently (like the fact that the guy handing over the medal to trump is talking to him, in what looks very much like the act of gifting him the medal).

Where this unfortunately breaks down is when other people, not so reality-impared, challenge them by pointing out the glaring factual omissions.

This is usually seen as a personal attack, like they're being called out individually and being called unpleasant things (which can be usually the case), and will respond by questioning the other person's character, intelligence and/or intentions.

Oh, and downvoting.

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[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 year ago

Yes it does learn human interaction.

The guy asks for it back, goes it the pocket and he shrugs it off.

That's not giving it stupido

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

Ask Cole Palmer what he thinks since this was a totally normal thing to do and not in anyway confusing.

Also I'm 100% calling bullshit and this gift was to save face. Chelsea players we're pissed he was even there.

[-] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This doesn't contradict the article. It explicitly says he was given the medal by Infantino in the subheader and the article body.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, but the implication of "given the medal to look at" and "pocketing FIFA medal" is that Trump "stole" it or wasn't supposed to keep it, which I haven't seen supported by a credible source yet.

Edit: regarding your own edit (adding the second image), I found no information at the linked source supporting the sentence as presented.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 year ago

Historically. Do they give those medals to other country leaders or nonplayers.

Find that answer and the truth will be yours

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Also nobody asking why the fuck he would be gifted a medal in the first place? Medals typically have meaning behind them. They represent achievement. What the fuck did Trump do to earn that medal, other than show up to the ceremony?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, he's been getting gifted medals from stupid fucking morons for doing fuck all for the past 10 goddamn years. Of course he would think that being handed a medal to look at is the same thing as being presented with one to keep.

He's a thief, through and through.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

Trump is a convicted felon, promoted beans at the resolute desk, received millions of dollars in inauguration fundraising from big tech, has his own cryptocurrency which he promoted by promising presidential access, and is being called a madman by economists for the least stable US economic policy since Bretton Woods.

Trump is not like "other country leaders". Historically the above would be disqualifying for "other country leaders". You can't cover news about him like "other country leaders". I almost can't believe that you're saying that you can.

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago

This is the complete most idiotic, moronic and stupid argument ever presented in my like 20 years of being a dumbass arguing on the Internet.

Donald Trump is different so he didn't steal the medal.

This is your argument.

No. He stole the fucking medal and the other guy understood all of what you're saying, decided it isn't worth it and moved on.

But he stole the medal.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the ad guy for the Independent website posted this.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

When you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the medal. You can do anything.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago

Stop letting him get away with this bullshit! It only emboldens him.

[-] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 2 points 1 year ago

You may have bitten the onion, my friend.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

You might want to check the community and website

[-] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago

The president of the united states really steals? no dignity

[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

He's a thief? Wow, the person who steals from a charity is a thief!!?!! Anyways you guys better watch him around top secret documents, you don't want to steal any of them (and then store them in an unlocked toilet next to a fax machine so he can easily fax them to other hostile governments for money or just because he's an imbecile).

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Need another source on this. Nowhere else is reporting this

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mean it's not like FIFA has kissed up to a wealthy dictator in the past at all...

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I hope all Americans are proud of the man they keep as their president.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago

Every time I see him in public, all I can think of is how I'm so hoping to see his head explode from a sniper's bullet. I don't think that could be described as Pride.

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[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 7 points 1 year ago

The US President reduced to petty theft, how befitting.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

What do you mean "reduced"? Do you think he was ever more than a crook?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was referring more to the position itself.

Although that's not much better is it?

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Old people steal.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Infantino is president of FIFA. FIFA is legendarily corrupt. Infantino defrauded FIFA and used money to buy himself shit. Infantino enjoys the corruption and attention from being at the top. That's just how FIFA rolls.

At worst Trump stole the medal and trophy from a guy who doesn't give a shit. Infantino changed the rules to put his name on the trophy, that's all he cares about. He's cut from the same cloth as Trump.

At least Trump didn't take anything from people who matter. The players weren't screwed by Trump. FIFA screws the players and Trump stole bullshit from FIFA. Fuck them both for making the sport about themselves.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Trump is Smaug.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

This was after he stole the trophy itself ....

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago
[-] cron@feddit.org 2 points 1 year ago

Clearly, Trump is the president with the most sports trophys.

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