Is a government full of pedophiles worth saving?
No. The answer is no.
Funny, I thought that's what they believed, too. Now, suddenly they seem to think it's best to leave the global pedophile cabal in power.
That's not collapse, that's just justice. That's people being held accountable for their crimes. Society is still going to function fine without them, their roles, if they even have any, will just be taken over by the next person in the command structure.
Or, better yet, we (as in society as a whole) can take the opportunity of clearing house to restructure our government (and, by extension, economic) systems to one where corrupt individuals cannot readily acquire hierarchical authority over others and entrench themselves behind layers of systemic powers.
Instead of an electoralist system where we elect representatives to dictate at their discretion which interests they will ultimately support for a federated system of syndicates where each has a set of delegates which have been assigned a specific responsibilities and expectations where, if those individuals are found to neglect their responsibilities, we can readily rescind their power of authority and replace them.
Power must come from the bottom up, otherwise we are slaves to the whims of those who wield authority from on high.
I’ve heard this “if we expose them whatta-buh-bout collapse?” a few times now. And if you’re trying to tell me that the global system is predicated upon the ultra rich and powerful being able to traffick and serially abuse children and get away with it, that’s not a system worth saving.
Burn it down, to the water line, and start anew. Release the whole thing, not a redacted or doctored list to quell the MAGA revolt. Everyone who was ever on that island - from the wait staff to Bill Gates - needs to be investigated properly, cleared as appropriate, and punished as deserved.
Completely agree, and the stonkingly overinflated ego on them to even contemplate an inking of the idea that society would collapse just because some scummy paedo cunts get some well deserved comeuppance is astonishing.
Christ, fucking baboons do a better job keeping their societies running more smoothly then these kiddie fiddling chucklefucks.
Plus there would be many more people chomping at the bit to do their 'jobs', but do it better.
Send the nonces to prison, fuck sake.
If stability means the pillars of our society are held up by pedophiles bring on the fuckin instability.
Yeah, it's always funny when conservatives are like 'careful what you wish for, Clinton was friends with Epstein too!'. Like we give a fuck, lock him up!
This is the difference between "I want my team to win" or "I want the good guys to win".
Yeah, my dad was going on about "why do all the Democrats want the Epstein files released, weren't the Clintons in there" and I'm like yeah, I want them to be investigated as well if needed. They can't imagine people would want the guys on their side investigated because after Nixon, they truly think any investigation of a political figure is for political gain.
Yah this argument makes no sense even if I imagine being a corn-fed chud in the hills, isn't this exactly the same "Bring down authority" narrative they've been preparing for years? Isn't this LITERALLY Q-anon's entire theater play but happening in real time?
Wow what warriors for saving children, look at 'em go! Look at them storm the capitol to bring down this evil cabal who are now actually admitting their existence in public, no code words, no secret basements! Wait, they stormed the capitol already? And it was because of no reason at all?
Well I'm sure they have something big planned to finally put an end to this deep-state scourge to life, liberty and children that they've been railing against for decades.
Innocent?
If they are innocent, how would releasing the document destroy them?
In trump’s mind, there’s nothing more “innocent” that forcing two underage girls to dress up as maids, force them to perform sexual acts on each other and him, sexually assault them, and then tell them they “performed adequately “ before leaving them
"It's good innocent fun that boys do, we have to stop persecuting these men for just doing what all men want!"
This is going to be the pro-pedo narrative that the entire right does their abrupt 180 with.
Trump says it can destroy innocent people? Why would innocent people be against publishing a list of pedophiles?
Here's Katie Johnson's testimony on how Trump and Epstein brutally raped her and other 13 year old girls: "Katie Johnson's full testimony of 2/11/16", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
I'm amazed it hasn't spread any more yet.
He's hijacking the point that victims need to have their identities protected. But instead of victims he means the perpetrators.
The same shitbag that was incessant about naming the jurors in his own corruption cases.
Fuck me I hate how airheaded the masses are.
he was jury tampering, so he can force them to replace the jurors, that way to delay it, and the courts were just giving him what he wants.
Why would anything collapse? What a dumb thing to say. These people already don't do anything but leech off the system. We'd have a more effective government and we'd kick the real welfare queens out.
By society they mean the veneer on brutal capitalism that allows them to do whatever the fuck they want while we get hosed
This is what a by-election is for. Someone is removed/resigns from office, or dies in office, surely you just run a by-election?
At least this is what we do in Australia for our house of reps (there's a different system for the senate since electorates are state-wide).
So we are at this point.
They're by definition NOT INNOCENT. Whatever happened to "drain the swamp"?
Whatever happened to "drain the swamp"?
It has been replaced by "Swamping the drain" long ago.
Conservatives about Pizzagate, a made-up fantasy conspiracy theory on a pedophile ring of powerful people: put them all in jail!
Conservatives about the Epstein files, a real-life conspiracy on a pedophile ring of powerful people: well surely we can't put all these people in jail, think about the consequences!
The difference is now their guy is affected, while with pizzagate it was only the others.
This is such embarrassing fantasy that it’s almost hard to believe that real people believe it, but traitor lunatics thrive on nonsense. This Epstein list is like the pizza parlor conspiracy.
The world’s most powerful people going to prison would not cause the collapse of society. That is just not what society is. Even setting aside all hate for the 0.1% and judgments about whether they deserve prison, it’s just ridiculous to say that society depends on them. Who even wrote that line? Ayn Rand’s grandson?
Lol yeah we couldn't possibly elect new reps. Gotta love conservatives and their static view of the world.
*This is Atlas Shrugged from what I understand (haven't read it). It's a handful of businessmen that grace the world, and without them the world can't function.
I call bullshit on 2/3 of Congress. I believe they’re not nearly as wealthy or powerful as the people being protected.
call bullshit on 2/3 of Congress.
Yeah..... It really doesn't have to be that dramatic. The GOP would be more than willing to bury any kind of evidence if it only endangered a couple of their mega donors.
I mean I'm guessing that the people wealthy enough to partake in pedo island probably aren't a fan of paying taxes.
Imprisioned? Hardly. Not with their kind of money and influence. Some would go down. We already know lots of names on the list which aren't getting any serious time out of this.
wait wait wait lmao hold on, are you saying the political elite are too big to fail? we can’t allow pedophile rapists to be punished because they weaseled their way to the top? i’m not fucking following the logic of their anger.
I would imagine there are at least half a million people far more qualified and with more integrity to replace those dummys
It would in no way impede the stability of society, quite the opposite. Those are the very same people who are responsible for much of the instability. If the US were to start prioritising the public good over the profits of the oligarchy, 99.99% of society would benefit.
It is not the elites of society who keep the role turning, it's the workers.
Wasn't Trump all about draining the swamp? And now that there is a swamp to drain he pussy's out? I guess TACO really was accurate.
Like the Panama papers?
They think they hold up society.
Yeah, if 2/3 of congress (and let's be honest, most pedos are GOP) and a bunch of CEOs disappeared for awhile literally nothing would be worse.
I severely doubt society would collapse. I'm even willing to bet that it would begin to flourish. If people with power and control are willing to do these things to kids, imagine what they do to you even now with their executive powers.
I'm seriously wondering that if these people refuse to release the information, it's time to vote for these representatives with lead next. This cannot be tolerated and we need to ensure people are afraid to commit such atrocious crimes on our young.
Theses people think way too highly of themselves. All of them are easily replaceable.
Ah yes, the world will collapse because of a problem that is almost exclusively in the USA.
On an unrelated note, have you ever heard of Americentrism?
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