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[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 142 points 1 month ago

Think about how much empathy your parents generation has for yours. They kind of sympathize, wish things were easier, but ultimately do not understand the wealth gap or your day-to-day.

Think about how much empathy you have for a 3rd world exploited labourer. You kind of sympathize, definitely wish things were easier, but ultimately do not understand on how they live on less than a dollar a day.

Billionaires aren't just one or two levels removed from understanding your situation. They are whole planets apart. They cannot comprehend our daily struggles. They do not see it except through summarized news reports that pander and reframe it to their lifestyle.

Billionaires are the most removed species on this planet

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your generalizing re your parents and the previous gens sympathy.

Especially those of us who were poor as kids.

We know how hard it is. In 1968 a house was about twice a persons average yearly income, now? Forgot it. My son probably will never have the option. The. Again, I really didn't either.

My son will probably never be able to own a house, may not live in a free country, will face runaway inflation and much more

I faced much in my time. Some way worse than anything my son will see

But those were instances. Moments I. Time. Hard, difficult, but fleeting after a while

What we are living in now is pervasive, all consuming and total greed stifling the younger generations and pulling what little safety nets we have for the old.

I grew up harder. But I also grew up easier. For instance I. The early seventies , you could get a full weight set for 18 bucks ( don't ask how I know that )

Today that weight set is 300. I mean wages were WAYYYYY. Lower.

But when a house could be got for 20 grand , they didn't have to be.

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago

I feel like we are in agreement

[-] Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Billionaires are the most removed species on this planet

If we all do our part, they could be removed further

[-] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 67 points 1 month ago

Unchecked capitalism has failed, and the USA is the first victim. This is what happens when you dumb down a country so much that they can't see the danger for themselves. Too bad for regular Americans but the leopards are going to feast.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 33 points 1 month ago

Uhh, USA is one of the last to fall, off the backs of what we have the nerve to call "third world."

It's rich Theil refers to a book with a colonial slogan of "no free lunch," after he and his ilk already sucked the husks of humanity dry. Pun intended.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 37 points 1 month ago
[-] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 36 points 1 month ago

Maybe it is required to be inhumane to be a billionaire?

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If so, then

Maybe it is required to be inhumane to ~~be~~ a billionaire

[-] antisocialite@lemmy.today 34 points 1 month ago

Spez talked about this years ago. He wants society to fall so he can rule over what's left because he thinks he's superior to all other humans

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Dude can't even run a glorified message board... How the fuck does he think he's gonna run a post-apocalyptic society?

[-] prole 13 points 1 month ago

This isn't a joke, Steve Huffman built a bunker with the express desire of becoming a feudal lord in whatever post apocalyptic hell hole that he helped create.

[-] evenglow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yup. It's not about money it's about control. So long as they have control while the world burns they are happy.

Once you win at life and have enough money to fuck off to a beach somewhere most people do. Some people can't. Because they still want your money.

So they can control you.

They are basically addicts. If they weren't they would be on that beach and no one would be talking about them.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Peter Thiel and his friends feel they no longer belong to our species.

Hard to argue with that actually. I'm going to go with they're some terrible type of worm, slug, or parasite rather than human beings.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

They never had any humanity to begin with. It is the only way to become a Billionaire.

and there i was standing on the crossroads of destiny, choosing to keep either my enterpreneurial spirit, or my humanity ...

[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Thiel has worried that Western civilization had entered a period of long-term stagnation in the 1970s which will continue unless there is a radical shake-up. This stagnation has many dimensions: lower economic growth, fewer world-changing scientific discoveries, and a general cultural malaise.

Imagine looking back at the proud of time where there was literally the most advances in the wildest technology and thinking it's stagnation. It was from a time period where people remembered refrigeration as new and exciting to the time where your phone has more computing power than the ones that put people on the moon, and it's in your freaking pocket, and say that technology stagnated.

As for the lower economic growth and the "stagnating" culture, that's squarely on the shoulders of corporations, and therefore, billionaires.

[-] match@pawb.social 17 points 1 month ago

man who hoarded and centralized wealth from software companies concerned about decay of entrepreneurship

interestingly, i get the sentiment that the economy has stalled since the 1970s from a surprising number of people, and i figured out that it's probably because blue-collar jobs have stagnated since the 1970s, and that's what most people feel. That sentiment coming from Thiel, who invests in software, is very weird though.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The thing is that while people struggle harder and harder for a smaller chunk of scraps, they still have a lot of quality of life improvements over the standard of living back in the 70s.

You almost certainly have decent access to passable air conditioning, which was far from a given back then. Even if you can't afford decent health care, the sporadic health care you can get is still better than the standard of care then. You can have a 60 inch television and more content provided to it than you could imagine.. You can instantly engage with people all over the world.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And, for an instant, she stared directly into those soft blue eyes and knew, with an instinctive mammalian certainty, that the exceedingly rich were no longer even remotely human.

William Gibson, Count Zero (Sprawl, #2)

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/126076-and-for-an-instant-she-stared-directly-into-those-soft

Like the torment Nexus tweet, I feel like some rich idiots read stuff like that and think it's a good idea.

[-] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 19 points 1 month ago

The Billionaires are a bunch of Degenerate Morons who diddle children, much as the ruling class has always been. They're funneling the world's wealth upwards thinking capital will insulate them from the coming climate crisis they're exasperating. How I wish I could be there when they realize that it won't.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

A second time.

The first time was stealing from everybody to become billionaires in the first place.

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[-] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

as a german I am very sorry to the world for Peter Thiel, Trumps bloodline, Hitler and a shit ton more. We are bad exporters as it turns out

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[-] Widdershins@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Let them be cake

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

"If the billionaires are so determined on quitting humanity, perhaps it would be best to give them what they want and sponsor a mission to Mars so humanity can rid itself of them."

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[-] Star 14 points 1 month ago

We should abandon them, by expropriating their wealth!

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[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 14 points 1 month ago

They abandoned humanity the second they decided to exploit their fellow man for profit. Fuck them and fuck anyone ignorant enough to believe that they ever had anything but ill will towards the rest of the world.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Steps to become a billionaire:

  1. Abandon humanity
  2. Step-on children's smiles
  3. Fund a feasibility study on turning poor into fuel
  4. Second study to prove those idiots in the first study wrong
  5. Replace gym equipment in second home with dogs you can kick and hit for exercise. The dogs must be trained service animals in active service to people who need them. You bankrupt those people at great personal expense and then you buy their dogs for pennies.
  6. Lunch
  7. Become billionaire
  8. Take cool pictures with swords. Don't show nobody.
  9. Abandon humanity
  10. Something kardashian related
[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

Sorry mate, this "money" thing can only be owned by humans. See, that dog over there, that chair, that building, or that chatbot over yonder, they can't own anything, because they're not human. If you are not part of humanity, you can't own human IOU credits. So, have fun at the island, we'll check in on you in October.

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 12 points 1 month ago

Have they not learned from Mario's brother?

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

🌎🌑🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

Well, they can feel free to fuck right off and find another species that will accept them.

[-] Karrion409@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Then maybe we should start relieving them of theirs

[-] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago
[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Always will

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That's because, and I'll speak loudly for those in the back, THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago
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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
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Reagan and Thatcher were politically successful, remaking even their center-left opponents such as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair into celebrants of streamlined government. But this political success has not in fact solved the problem of stagnation, which remains as severe, by Thiel’s account, as it has ever been. Thiel and his cohorts have gotten everything they want politically, but that has still failed to solve the key problem of our time. The fact that he still advocates a failed economic program suggests the deeper stagnation is in his own mind.

Since politics has failed, Thiel and the other plutocrats are also toying with another solution: secession from society and the human species. Thiel has long been an advocate of various post-human technological solutions that will allow him and his fellow plutocrats to free themselves from the stagnant mass of humanity: cryonics (to overcome death), sea-steading (to create sea-board libertarian utopias), colonizing Mars, and artificial intelligence.

I'm all for it. Send them to Mars and make sure they don't come back!

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

One of the things I wish we'd stop doing is treating these guys as if they are rational, coherent political actors. They are not. They are unbelievable weirdos. And not the good kind, either. They're more like the kind of weirdos that I would not be surprised if came out later that they had a collection of human thumbs in a jar in their basement.

They are not defending conservatism and tradition. They are hard selling accelerationism and the complete breakdown of our world because they've convinced themselves that in 5 or 10 or 20 years they will have an AI that can do literally anything, from telling them how to rewire their bodies to survive on Mars to teaching them how to upload their consciousnesses to the Internet and live forever as digital gods, ruling the galaxy.

And I know that sounds like comical hyperbole, but that's what they very seriously and very literally believe according to Greg Fish, a compsci grad student and popular tech blogger, who, over a decade ago, was invited to be an advisor at the Lifeboat Foundation, one of the many think tanks they set up to convince themselves that this was all possible. He gave them a hard no, and wrote some articles skeptical of them on True Slant, which is now owned by Forbes. Immediately he got calls from the Director of the Singularity Institute challenging him to a public debate. This was all over a decade ago. And since then, because of the hyperventilating discourse around AI and ChatGPT, it's only gotten much, much worse.

So, yeah, if they seem really weird and like they've been marinating in some kind of "WH40K-esque" tech religion, it's because they are, and they have.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Personally, I would prefer Venus. I want these bastards to melt.

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