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Following Trump’s attacks on Iran, an admin official tells Rolling Stone, “The intelligence assessments have not really changed”

After Donald Trump’s decision to strike three Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday, administration officials are barely bothering to pretend the unprecedented — and potentially calamitous — attacks were motivated by new intelligence suggesting Iran was on the brink of having nuclear weapons.

Just months ago, Trump’s Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified to Congress, in her opening statement, that the U.S. intel community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon” and had not reauthorized its nuclear weapons program.

While Trump recently publicly disputed Gabbard’s testimony, according to two administration officials with knowledge of internal deliberations in recent weeks, the president’s decision to strike was not driven by any new U.S. intelligence on Iran.

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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 252 points 5 days ago
[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 102 points 5 days ago

Seemed pretty obvious that Bibi wanted Trump to win and intentionally stalled Gaza ceasefire agreements to make Biden/Harris look bad.

This may have been Trump returning his end of the bargain (or Trump is just a shortsighted and stupid piece of shit).

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Bibi's got kompromat on him, Epstein may have been Mossad

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[-] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

Well Biden/Harris could have pulled the plug for doing that. Instead they let Netanyahu publicly humiliate them by defying any requests, knowing they would send more weapons as a reward.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Seemed pretty obvious that Bibi wanted Trump to win and intentionally stalled Gaza ceasefire agreements to make Biden/Harris look bad.

And biden/harris fell for it. they looked weak and complicit because they're democrats and that's their brand.

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[-] kautau@lemmy.world 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

He’s trying to get ahead of a mob and call it a parade.

See how his last one went to figure out how this will go.

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[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 97 points 5 days ago

But women are "too emotional" to be president. Fucking hell, just choke on hamberder already.

[-] Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee 56 points 5 days ago

They were based on Trump being pissed that his little birthday parade was humiliating.

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

"maybe my military parade sucked because I haven't actually started a war yet"

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago

The Intel probably came in the form of a new deposit clearing in Trump’s bank account

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago

Who uses bank accounts anymore? They probably bought a bunch of $TRUMP. Doesn't every US President have their own private currency?

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Antiquities scholars of some future alien race thumbing through hard drives like Roman coins

[-] BlueBaggy@sh.itjust.works 53 points 5 days ago

What a year, first we got vibe coding and now vibe bombing... I wonder what's next

[-] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago

Don't forget about the vibe-based deportations

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

We've had vibe-based rape for ages. "She says no, but she clearly wants it"

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

Hopefully vibe-heart attack.

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[-] doctortofu@piefed.social 58 points 5 days ago

You thought vibe coding was bad? Welcome to the age of vibe bombing...

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 days ago

Siri, bomb a middle eastern country.

[-] aeternum 3 points 4 days ago

this wouldn't work

it's 'hey siri'

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Vibe-running the world is the new hotness

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

"There is no intel" describes the entire regime

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[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

They weren't based on vibes, they were based on orders. Trump's foreign handlers told him what to do and he did it.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Iran's theocratic regime aside (which the US is largely responsible for creating), why exactly are the US (and a handful of other countries) somehow more worthy of having nukes than others?

It's some bullshit if you ask me.

The question of "do we really want X country having nukes?" seems to come off as: "it's okay for country Y (the US) to have nukes".

I for one, am not a fan of anyone having nukes, but if we're not planning on getting that number to zero, not sure how it's justified to say a certain country doesn't deserve them, other than maybe North Korea who are completely unhinged, but how can we draw the line? The USA is literally just committing acts of war because they've unilaterally decided that Iran has nukes, without evidence, and that means they're justified in doing pre-emptive strikes.

I don't think any country is ever justified in pre-emptively striking another without extremely strong evidence.

I'm thoroughly unconvinced that any war the US has fought other than World War II has been justified.

[-] SnotFlickerman 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Vranyo.

You know I’m lying, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know, but I go ahead with a straight face, and you nod seriously and take notes.

The bald faced lies are like the final insult. Even during the lead up to Iraq they made a show of trying to fake intelligence enough to suit their goals. Now it's just, fuck it we ball, and say whatever, who cares, and who cares if they know we're lying, they can't do anything about it.

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

I’m mildly surprised the Trump leaning press is not claiming that Iran is friendly with monstrous tentacled aliens , and that is why, sadly there must be more war, to save earth..

Many would just believe it

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[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 28 points 5 days ago

There is no intelligence in the whole administration, we know.

[-] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago
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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 4 days ago

Why not use the full word? "There is no intelligence" is much more apt.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

“Source: literally my ass”

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 12 points 4 days ago

vibe coding and now vibe warmongering

[-] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago

Really nice knowing that Nuke country #1 is governed by absolute senile murderous freaks for over at least 10 years now

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago

Vibe Warfare. Where Skynet doesn't have control of the military, but everyone does what it says anyway.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

FTFY: the president’s decision to strike was not driven by ~~any new U.S.~~ intelligence ~~on Iran~~.

[-] Bieren@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Oh FFS. We will know this orange fucker doesnt pay attention in any intel meetings he actual attends. And he can’t read the intel reports. He just makes everything up from what he sees on Fox News and the other conservative “news” networks.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 16 points 5 days ago

Ship Trump to Iran and let them do what they will

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[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I mean, if Israel has nukes, and Iran has nukes, that should lead to peace, right? But peace isn't what Israel is after. This isn't about peace. It's about eliminating all that think and look different.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Wasn't the picture of 1970s Iranian women (dressed like US 1970s women) just floating around a couple months along with the attached comment stating "pictures of places before Muslim rule floating around means the US is about to bomb them" or does that just happen every year

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago

Iran was a liberal democracy before the US helped topple it and install the Ayatollah.

The US is complicit in all the violence they did to their people.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 46 points 5 days ago

Not quite. It was a liberal democracy until the US helped topple it and install the Shah, who was then toppled by Khomeini.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 25 points 5 days ago

Many such cases of liberal democracies being toppled by the Us in favor of dictators

[-] TotallynotJessica 8 points 5 days ago

It really shouldn't be surprising that the US liberal democracy got toppled by a dictator when we seem to love such foreign policy.

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 10 points 5 days ago

Yeah. The problem with American democracy is that they loved capitalism more than democracy and that is bad

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Those pics are always floating around. Means nothing.

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[-] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

Who does he think he is? A Bush family member? /jk

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

There's certainly no intelligence to be found anywhere in the Trump administration.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

the president’s decision to strike was not driven by ~~any new U.S.~~ intelligence ~~on Iran~~.

FTFY.

[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Maybe the CIA can initiate another coup…ffs.

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