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Xbox first party titles expected to hit $80 USD this holiday; Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

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[-] porthos@startrek.website 106 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Game Pass pricing currently unchanged.

That is because the job of Game Pass isn't to make money, it is to funnel customers into subscription services and destroy the idea that people buy games from artists.

Game Pass either succeeds and destroys the gaming industry like spotify did to music or Microsoft will abandon Game Pass.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

They've already plateaued and basically admitted to it. It's a large revenue stream that's not as large as they thought it would be, so now they're going to coast with it and rely on just being a massive publisher instead.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 months ago

Renting games and music seems like a bad idea to me, but I am in the minority. Buy a new album once a month for $8, after a year I have 12 albums. Pay that to spotify and I have nothing.

Gamepass is priced more aggressively at $12/mo, but I assume it's a loss so they can eventually raise prices. Even so, if I buy a new somewhat discounted game for $36 every three months, after a year I have four games. With gamepass, I'm pretty sure I end up with nothing.

But I don't think humans are known for long term thinking.

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[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 60 points 3 months ago

It's strange really. You can buy 4 extremely good indie games for the price of one game. And that's at a 20 each.

And with steam sales and sharing...valve is fun.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Trying to raise the "standard" price to $80 will have very nice ripple effects of more pricing diversity, where each game will really consider what it's actually worth, which we haven't had for a long time. Even now we're getting first-party Microsoft titles releasing at $20, $30, and $50.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

How much is Factorio worth though, everything?

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

The amount of time I've put in it could have cost me $200 and it would still be one of the best $/hr games I have

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[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you so fucking much Nintendo for upping the standard and the everyone else falling in line because consoomers didn't scoff at all and sold out pre-orders

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 3 months ago

Like Nvidia video cards did during the pandemic...

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Valve hasn’t gotten the memo yet. Someone email them again?

[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

I think it was actually publishers like EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, and Activision that started the price increase. For big titles they started raising them to $70 a year or two ago, then to 80. I think I remember Diablo 4 launching for $80, or so.

I only know this because I refuse to buy from these publishers.

[-] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 38 points 3 months ago

if anyone was looking for a good time to switch to PC, it's now. some stuff will be harder but you'll have steam sales and control over your own device (more than a console anyway, if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft).

[-] ximtor@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

if your running windows you'll still have to put up with Microsoft

Luckily, there is another choice. Linux runs pretty smooth and has gotten much simpler to use over the years.

[-] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 4 points 3 months ago

that's what I was implying I switched back in August

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

Plus steam deck is pretty solid.

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[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Thank you Microsoft, for taking pressure off Nintendo. 😛

[-] bennel@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

The difference is: Microsoft and Sony 1st party titles go on sale and eventually come down in price over time.

Nintendo first party titles are always full price, even for 5 year old games.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yup. The reality, while shitty, Microsoft still publishes games on multiple platforms (2 at minimum - PC and xbox). On PC, the games are sold on multiple storefronts with varying discounts and sales. Oblivion remastered just launched with a 17% discount on another store on PC for example.

Nintendo has a complete monopoly on the platform they publish for and completely control the prices.

For me, all these price increases are doing is moving me more towards PC. And to a larger degree off AAA titles all together.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 5 points 3 months ago

Every game that has a physical release (and even some that don't) does get sold by other retailers, and those retailers do regularly have sales.

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[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago
[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago

I didnt know Linux manufactured solid controllers. Can you link me one? /s

Like for real: Xbox Controllers are actually good.

[-] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

8bitdo controllers are fucking amazing.

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Playstation controllers have more features though, and arguably better Linux support.

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[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Wish I could agree, but the consistently broken bumpers really irritate me.

I have gone through probably 20ish Xbox controllers, the 360 controllers were the most durable (except the stick rubber bit) whereas the core and series controllers and even my elite 2 controllers have all had the bumpers break or otherwise stop functioning.

I replaces the bumpers several times manually, then with the elite 2 they changed the design but now it breaks at the actual button instead of the flimsy plastic piece like on the core/series controllers.

Luckily putting some ISO on the button and throughly cleaning it along with sticking a small piece of paper near the actuator seems to have fixed it for several months.

I would love a solid controller with Xbox style layout (particularly the thumbsticks) replaceable sticks and 4 back paddles. I think the Playstation TouchPad would also be a welcome addition for PC navigation or steam input mapping.

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[-] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I still use my Xbox One to play some Battlefield games. But I'm never buying a new console ever again. Fuck Microsfot. Fuck Sony. And you know what Nintendo fuck you too. Price gouging, greedy fucks the lot of them. PC+emulators is now the way to go, fuck all these greedy companies.

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[-] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

There has always been an inherent value to consoles but if that goes away then I can genuinely see them dying off. Personally I thinks the current gen is a huge disappointment anyway and this news just makes it even more ridiculous.

[-] DefinitelyNotAnAlien@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

As we are all switching from Windows to Linux, I’m actually surprised Microsoft is doing this. I guess they really don’t want to be competitive in the consumer market anymore. I guess they are making enough money through military contracts now that they don’t need to cater to us.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

We all? I mean, I have, but we represent single digit percentages of the market, which is why they keep shoving more bullshit into Windows that no one wants, because hardly anyone leaves Windows. The most that this affects Linux gamers is if you like their controllers or individual games that they publish, but that would be the same as on Windows as well.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago

We all, all of me. I don't have to care about what others are buying, because Steam and Linux is an amazing gaming experience and they're the ones missing out. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[-] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

But your entire point was based on the idea that people are switching to Linux in droves...

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[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

ARGGGGHH ya filthy vermin 😂 Fuck your subscriptions. 10tb checking in.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

Fuck the US for inflicting this on the rest of the world.
At least the ones that voted the orange guy.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

Oh no.

Anyway.

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Steam can't release a "console" soon enough.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago

Thousands of them already exist. They're called PCs.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Millions you mean.

Hundreds of millions.

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[-] scops@reddthat.com 5 points 3 months ago

And the amount of money I spend on Xbox consoles, controllers, and games will be unchanged this year.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

I wonder if the price increase will be spent on making a chart that tells me which XBox is which?

I don't know exactly when I got old, but I feel angry every time Xbox reminds me that I'm too old to know which is which.

[-] commander@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Microsoft may as well just cancel their whole Xbox hardware business. Xbox Series is a secondary market for Microsoft games after PlayStation and any console successor they release is going to limp to the starting line. At least the XSX had hype from the Bethesda acquisition and previous Obsidian/Inxile/etc acquisitions

Really we all need a Steam Deck 2 and a stronger Valve produced Strix Halo mini-PC

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[-] chunes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Old games are better anyway. Covid knocks off two IQ points every time you catch it, and it shows in the quality of software these days.

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