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An emergency order removes protections covering more than half the land managed by the U.S. Forest Service as the president aims to boost timber production.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 week ago

No one will save the US, this administration is going to let everyone and everything be gutted.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

"let"? They are the ones gutting!

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

A lot of JRPGs were pretty clear on the alightment and heroism of ecoterrorists.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 week ago

I sometimes wonder about people who played final fantasy 7 but are conservative. Like, did you just blank out everything except tifa's tits and cool swords? They're ecoterrorists fighting against a corporation. Be like Barret.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Never underestimate how media illiterate right wingers are.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

1 very specific one that I can think of.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

No one can save the US. This is what people voted for (including the protest non voters!), and that's how government is supposed to work: do what it was voted in for.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

The dude cheated. Come on, there is no way around it. He legally cheated by gerrymandering and having his minions doing the cheating for him, but he cheated.

[-] EmptySlime 9 points 1 week ago

By any sane reading of the constitution he should have been barred from running again due to having been part of an insurrection. But SCOTUS said nah let the voters decide.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Unless you vote Democrat, and then it's "We tried to do the one thing and Joe Lieberman bullied us :(" or "sure, we'll get you internet, just submit to this seven year 36-point process before we can disperse the funds; we even kept it down to 18 subcommittees!" or "we're going to build a high speed train over thirty years, fund it with a one-time bond allowance, and make sure it costs ten times more than we funded it for, but don't worry, federal grants will make up for it, right? Right? Why are you looking at me like that? Right?"

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Pro tip: you're allowed to be critical of the people you vote for. They won't explode in a puff of wishes and fairy dust with a thunderous "oh well".

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Allowed to be critical? No one but the DNCs most senior staff would be dumb enough to not be highly critical of all the dumbass choices they made that doomed that election. Fucking Dick Chaney? Why in the holy fuck would you think a highly publicized Chaney endorsement would A: make a single Trump cultist give any level of interest in voting against the orange one, or B; not deflate your voter base because we ALL STILL REMEMBER WHY WE HATE DICK CHANEY!!

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago
[-] Zorsith 1 points 1 week ago

Just in case, a hole saw to put the exterior of the tree back over the place being staked, so its less obvious.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 43 points 1 week ago

bend over america, hes goin in dry

[-] Hayduke@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

What a stupid fucking move. Here in Oregon there are so many logging scars and shitty areas that were once beautiful old growth forests. The destruction logging leaves in its wake is sobering, terrifying and disgusting. We already have areas that are fucked up, monoculture wastelands. Keep raping that until we get our shit together.

I can’t wait to read the big headline. Until then, they better fucking gridlock this in the courts.

Cunts. All of them. Maybe we could get them to go stand out in the woods holding some branches.

[-] bradd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm curious if it's going to be old growth though or land that was previously logged, replanted, and closed off. I assume it's the latter, since really I'm not sure old growth would even be as cost effective.

[-] wetsoggybread@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

The wildest part is what necessitated making this an emergency order, what's the emergency? Corporations aren't making enough money?

Tarif imposed on Canada lumber because of fentanyl.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

'because of fentanyl' is a stretch. It's the given excuse not the actual reason.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Are they shipping the Fentanyl in the lumber?

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 33 points 1 week ago

I am the Lorax, I speak for the trees

Hands off my forests or I'll shoot your fucking knees.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Someone needs to fucking do it 9 months ago.

Wait...they missed. Fuck!

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 10 points 1 week ago

We stuffed and mounted the Lorax decades ago. Now our house is burning down and we dunno whyyy

[-] Bonus@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't know if threatening all our homelands is a great idea. I was raised by rangers, grew up scouting, lived in National Forests for a very formative chunk of my life. Sure, we all grew up in a bubble. We're not French. But, we're not going to just not resist. I keep picturing a mama bear defending her cubs, like in The Revenant. This is a vindictive order from the same guy that dodged serving in Vietnam, where he could have learned lessons about attacking people on their home turf in an unpopular war. The one saving grace is these lands are truly so magnificent and vast, most people will never be able to detect the intended atrocities. But I will. I'm supposed to be mountain biking in National Forests right now and am only delaying due to mechanical problems. All of us who actually restore these trails and spend time in these wildernesses will.

The damage to commercial interests is the thing he's really not calculating. Tourism, skiing, etc. will not be happy with this sabotage.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

Ooh, RAPE the forest. I thought he said RAKE the forest.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fucking conservatives online are touting this as a win, since "they [ephemeral] are already mismanaging the forests, and what sections are they logging, and it's not clear cutting, etc."

It's sick that they can't even state that this is bad.

[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

If only there was a sustainable source nearby…maybe even a longtime free trade partner…

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Honestly all I can think is can America please die quietly. Your refusing to fight for yourself so why should we give a fuck

[-] don@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I was under the assumption no cared about them.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Based on my googling, theres a severe labor shortage in logging. Hopefully we get the chance to overturn this before much damage is done. This EO and tariffs are unlikely to spur much investment if the possibility remains that they'll just get overturned in 3 years. IF we get another election.

[-] socialmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They aren't his trees.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] Hayduke@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Game recognize game

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Are sawmills and crews suddenly going to spring up to process all the new timber? Also, those trees aren't necessarily construction quality species.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, China will buy it. Oh wait...

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Which half? Bottom half?

[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Honestly, what's the difference between logging in one make-believe-border geographic area vs another? Isn't it doing the same damage to this planet in the long run?

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

There are woodland species and grassland species. The grassland extends into the woodlands quite a bit. Even a small clearing in the middle of heavy woods makes a big dent in available woodland for species. Having large, unbroken areas of forest are essential for survival of the plants and animals that live there.

That's how a songbird researcher explained it to me.

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