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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 14 points 1 day ago

We need non-profit public housing that is suitable for middle-class families.

Non-profit doesn't mean "free" or that money is being lost, just that the goal is to provide housing at cost rather than profit-seeking. Subsidies and such would still be available for low-income households as needed.

[-] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Just ban being a landlord guys. Tax owning land that you're not using out of existence. Rent/leases are simple vectors of wealth transferal - they move money from the poor to the rich. Everyone should own their own flat/house. Every business should own the space they work out of.

There is no good reason housing should be an investment vehicle akin to a stock or a bond.

[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 day ago

On one hand, yes this would hurt a lot of people and corporations. On the other hand, we're already hurting, so fuck it.

[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago

Why couldn't the US have guaranteed government housing available to any citizen that needs it? A $100 a month apartment to cure homelessness shouldn't be a funny joke ... it should be questioned with "why should it even cost money"?

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Government housing tied to the cost of 1 weeks minimum wage. So simple, so elegant.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

The government actually helping people without lining the pockets of the capital class? That's commie talk

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

NOT IN MY AMERICA HIPPY!!! -Richard Nixon

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[-] stormdahl@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

For me personally I’d like a 50-60 square meter apartment for no more than 2x my annual income. And I’d like to be able to get a loan with a monthly down payment equal to whatever I’ve been paying in rent for the last couple of years.

I can pay 12500 NOK a month in rent, but for some reason the bank can’t trust me to pay the same amount if I were to buy an apartment? Fuck that.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That was a scam they put in place after 2008 when they were being punished for scamming us. (while scamming us for bailouts for the previous scam) It takes a lot of government regulation to keep the banks from stealing, good thing thats gone now!

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

Turn every company into a worker owned co-op and then it becomes 100x harder for companies to do shady immoral stuff

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I mean thats fine as long as the Millions of chinese and vietnamese workers making Iphones get to keep their cut of the company. I just hate nationalistic protectionism. These are all global companys. I'd be down to share.

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[-] Soapbox1858@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

It should be locked at 50 cents per square foot. So a studio apt would be like $500 a month. Its close enough to what prices were in recent memory before the insane jumps in rent cost the last decade.

[-] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago

My take?

  1. corporations aren't allowed to own land or houses other than the office space and production facilities.

  2. people can only own the buildings they live in (with proof of living there at least X% of the year)

  3. The state takes over all houses and land that become unused by these laws

  4. The state rents out their property as 'rent to own', or as housing for the homeless

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[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Then this is my take:

  • no taxes on first home
  • some tax on second home
  • taxes on any home past the second grow exponentially, doubling for each additional home
  • order of the homes is always from less expensive to most expensive
  • same is valid for companies
  • for companies owned by other companies, all the houses owned are considered as belonging to the mother (root) company, so there's no "creating matrioskas to that each own a single house"

Obviously offices and factories are not habitable space and therefore not counted in this system.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Housing shouldn't be an investment asset, especially in a for profit system, or you'll just make BlackRock again.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I think that’s what s/he was trying to resolve with the doubling of tax on each additional property. It would become cost prohibitive very quickly to have multiple properties.

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[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It shouldn't be an investment asset.

Homebuilding is still a business though. You still need someone to risk their money, assemble the materials and crew, complete the project and find a buyer for it.

If there's no demand for a product no one will build it. There's always going to be demand for a mythical product that can't be built. Like cheap housing.

I just spent $2,000 on a handful of wood, shingles, and siding to patch my house up. like 1/10th of a single wide trailer. That's just the materials i'll be providing the labor which would normally cost $30-$60 hour.

So it shouldn't be an investment asset, someone still has to invest in it being built, so that a homeowner may live there.

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[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago

THATS UNIRONICALLY BETTER THAN OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT

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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 165 points 2 days ago

It would only be an economic crisis for land owners who seek rent. Really housing shouldn’t be something that people profit from.

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[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Nothing actually. That would work fine. If it was handled in good faith.

[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago

Economic crisis? That would be terrible! It's a good thing we never have any economic crises under the current system!

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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago

pretty sure this would lead to some sort of economic crisis

And? We’ve already tried it the other way around, and we’ve really got nothing to lose at this point by trying OOP’s idea out.

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