"...I just shrug it off, comment 'lol' and go back to work where I slave off to a billionaire and pay taxes to a fascist government"
He'd just be doing that to harass women for breaking the rule.
I am really annoyed at whoever taught him the word tariff.
Typical leftist, won't even show a shred of empathy to the profit margins of the American cock and ball torture device industry!
(/s because I have lost faith in people)
Why are libral killing the torture industry??
Bullshit!
The tariffs on the tools required for the mandatory cock and ball torture would be set higher than for everything else imaginable.
Republicans have proven they're willing to burn themselves alive, as long as their never ending list of enemies burn beside them and they get to watch.
oh, but that think they're not burning as badly as us. I strive to have more fun than they are
Not even that, they do it because they don't have to watch or be accountable. "It's just someone I support the policies more of, the policies that I won't say specifically."
Waking up everyday and it’s a different “thank god I don’t live in the USA” I say, usually after reading any news related to the usa
I would invite you to consider that a fascist government with access to both the largest nuclear stockpile as well as by far the largest stating military is now in power
So it might not be your problem today, but it will CERTAINLY be your problem at some point
because the territory greed of fascist governments are never sated, and now who can stop us?
Just live out of spite
Thats how I'm mentally gaslighting myself nowadays
Seems like it is no fun living in The Best Country in the World™.
Meanwhile in an unnamed hobby room: "nh hmmppf mpf hmml hwwmm?" ("Is the mandatory torture worth the tariffs?")
Can't believe you've got me supporting something hypothetical Trump did
Why the fuck would you support 2500 % Tariffs on anything?!?!?
Ohhhhhhhh. Nevermind.
In previous news there has been this EU initiative of adopting cute twinks and offering honest woodcutting work for tomboys, maybe it is still up
i suggest leaving.
it's better outside.
Plenty of people literally can't leave
far more people can leave.
I'd like to help both.
So, I left. It's not nearly as easy as you claim.
First off, where? Where do they go?
Secondly, how do they stay? You need a visa. That's not easy, especially if you lack higher education.
Thirdly, what about language?
Fourthly, what about support network? All of your knowledge of how law, politics, social customs, and more is now irrelevant. Whom do you ask for help with things? How do you make sure you don't get scammed when buying an apartment? Or that you take the right bus? Or that your company is handling taxes properly?
Fifth, what about a job? Especially if you lack higher education, why would a company hire a foreigner? Unless they can pay you dirt, of course.
So yeah, this "just leave" thinking is absolute bullshit. You're not actually thinking through things. It's not that easy. Life improvement is not guaranteed.
On an opposing note, I keep thinking I should go back. Why? Because shit isn't gonna get better if all the people who want change are gone. My life is pretty fucking rad here, but... seeing this happen to the US without me doing anything about it makes me feel like I'm abdicating my responsibilities as a citizen
you have pretty broad questions, so I'm going to give you relatively broad answers, that i am happy to expand upon further.
"Where?"
wherever you want that fits your circumstances.
"how do they stay?"
Americans travel visa-free or visa-on-arrival to over 180 countries and can stay in those countries for weeks, months or years.
"You need a visa. That’s not easy"
It's pretty easy. Americans usually don't need a visa, and when they do, the process these days is usually
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online form for 5-15 minutes.
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Pay fee.
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visa is emailed to you.
"what about language?"
I suggest learning the local language where you're living for a variety of reasons.
There's an episode about that coming up!
Actually, there are episodes about all of this coming up, haha.
"what about support network? Whom do you ask for help....?"
There are huge expat and local support networks in every country that will answer every question you've asked, as well as embassies, consulates, and help lines.
If you're teaching ESL, you'll have a cultural liaison from your school or less formal support staff.
"All of your knowledge of how law, politics, social customs, and more is now irrelevant"
is that knowledge particularly relevant to your day to day life in your home country?
Abroad, you may reflect upon that information being about as useful and temporary as....paper cranes in a flood.
"Fifth, what about a job?"
If you have a remote job that pays $500 USD a month, you can live in most countries comfortably.
If you are a native English speaker, you can teach English and make a lot more.
Those are two of any number of work options.
"why would a company hire a foreigner?"
For the same reasons all companies hire foreigners: that foreigner has a skill the company requires.
"they can pay you dirt"
Starting pay for ESL in china is $2500 usd a month in china without a degree or tefl certificate. With both, it's closer to $3500 a month.
Cost of living in China is about $300-$600 usd a month depending on where you are.
"...it makes me feel like I’m abdicating my responsibilities as a citizen"
Participating in and paying into the US system that is exploiting entire generations and stripping their rights bears more social guilt than protesting against the system and withholding funding, but:
nobody is making you take these available opportunities.
My point is and has been that most Americans can escape the system and stop supporting it if they want to.
Nobody is going to make anyone start traveling, learn things, make friends, and save money, but you can if you want to.
Obviously "can" is subjective.
"Can" people afford a plane ticket to somewhere? Probably.
Would their quality of life in that destination be satisfactory? In most cases, no.
"“can” is subjective."
They can or cannot. Pretty clear-cut.
'“Can” people afford a plane ticket to somewhere? Probably."
Yup.
"Would their quality of life in that destination be satisfactory?"
also a strong yup. higher to much higher quality of life.
Higher pay, fewer hours, better social support, better infrastructure, more opportunities.
far more people can leave.
There's no way this could be true.
it is.
Far more people can leave the US than cannot leave the US.
How are you coming to this conclusion?
Yeah. We are one of the most populous countries in the world. 300 million people. And most countries are shutting down migration.
transportation and travel fundamentals.
Just ignore people's lives involving those that live near them, family, lack of money, lack of a destination that will take them long term, and every other thing beyond vehicles go vroom.
that's not a good idea; you aren't taking into account important parts of people's lives that can affect their ability or inclination to travel.
you sound a bit DeSantis, wanting to ship people off without due consideration or even a rough plan in mind.
I think you replied to the wrong comment.
you said:
"just ignore people's lives involving those that live near them, family, lack of money, lack of a destination that will take them long term, and every other thing beyond vehicles go vroom. "
my reply:
that's not a good idea; you aren't taking into account important parts of people's lives that can affect their ability or inclination to travel.
you sound a bit DeSantis, wanting to ship people off without due consideration or even a rough plan in mind.
???
Where are these hundreds of millions of people travelling to?
are you trying to ask where Americans can travel?
yes
Americans can travel to most countries in the world(180 of them, give or take) either visa-free or with a visa on arrival.
Almost all remaining countries accept online visa applications. You fill out an online form (15 minutes or less), pay the fee, and they email you the Visa a day or two later.
Oh so you literally just mean travel. Not actually working or settling down?
"...not actually working or settling down?"
In the previous comment, I was answering your question of "where americans can travel" to.
If you want to work or settle down abroad, you can do that.
If you want to travel indefinitely, you can do that too.
Travel is up to the traveler.
You original comment didn't read to me as "take a vacation" so given the broader context I wasn't taking the wording so literally.
that's good, I definitely wasn't saying "take a vacation".
"You original comment...so literally."
don't take it too literally.
when i wrote:
"i suggest leaving.
it's better outside."
I was referring to leaving the country and situation that is making OP miserable, rather than leaving this post or your apartment or whatever literal conclusion you're referring to now.
But even then I doubt the majority of Americans can afford to do so.
No use for doubt when the information is avalable:
Tickets to central america this month starting at 21$, Europe starting at $98, Asia starting at $249(cherry blossom prices).
Are you speaking from direct experience? Where did you end up and how? Fascism is a growing trend. America has changed pretty significantly, but retreating seems like it could get a bit cat and mouse with the direction other nations are also headed.
"Are you speaking from direct experience?"
i am speaking from direct experience.
"Where did you end up"
I've been traveling over a decade; started in china, went to a few dozen countries, still going.
"how?"
came across an ad for teaching english, flew over to China. kept going.
"Fascism is a growing trend."
it's certainly a very popular topic within a few countries these days.
i daresay it's much easier to comprehend from out here.
"America has changed pretty significantly"
it might seem like that standing on the pulse there but again, things look different from out here.
"bit cat and mouse with the direction other nations are also headed."
there are 200 countries, none of which are static.
you may feel confined because you're living in one of them, and it could be that you think you're only supposed to live in one of them.
"retreating"
protesting, not retreating.
if you live outside of the states for more than 330 days per year, you aren't required to pay earned income tax up $125,000.
administrations and policies I don't agree with don't get my tax revenue, and haven't for a long time.
Withholding funding from the system is preferable to participating in and contributing to the system.
Vote with your feet.
I have no intention to leave because this is my home. These naive fascists think America is just the government and economy, but those have always been it's worst features. I'm gonna stay and I'm gonna enjoy myself until the bullet passes through my brain. I'm gonna make sure it stains their nicest carpets and finest dress, because I know they love seeming civil and clean.
nobody is going to make you leave, I'm offering advice and encouragement for people who do want to leave or feel hopeless about their prospects.
couple things here:
"I'm gonna stay and I'm gonna enjoy myself until the bullet passes through my brain. I'm gonna make sure it stains their nicest carpets and finest dress,"
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it's much easier to die for a cause than to live for a cause.
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you can do a lot more damage alive than dead.
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your life is worth a lot more than inconveniencing somebody's carpet.
as an example, if you travel for 11 months out of the year, you don't have to pay earned income tax, and taking away revenue from the government is going to do a lot more harm than you being dead.
especially because I don't see any evidence for this:
"they love seeming civil and clean."
I don't think they like being clean so much as they don't care about being dirty in public anymore.
Oh, but I do want them to be filthy and dirty in public. In fact, I'm almost pleased that they're so unhinged nowadays, because it's not an issue peace lovers can ignore anymore. They put off real resistance for too long.
The main reason I'm prepared to die isn't because I don't want to live. I'm just planning on living as obnoxiously and proudly as possible. I want queer people to be an issue no one can ignore, and being visible in today's world is very very dangerous. I don't want to die, but I will never live quietly. I'm gonna dance on the carpets of the rich and nothing but lethal, blood staining violence will stop me.
"...filthy and dirty in public.'
they really have been for a while now.
you got your wish.
"planning on living as obnoxiously and proudly as possible."
go for it, my concern is that you won't achieve what you want this way.
"I want queer people to be an issue no one can ignore,"
I think this is another goal you've already achieved, queer people in general are an issue nobody is ignoring already.
on the good side, the prevalence of queer culture is higher than it's ever been, even in conservative enclaves like the US.
on the bad side, the most powerful people in a few countries like tge US are so afraid of glitter that they're trying to override the other two branches of government in a vain efforts to shove the fancypants genie back in the bottle.
but that's the thing about genies and bottles, though.
"being visible in today's world is very very dangerous"
in some places, it is.
in other places it's totally normal and accepted to be as visibly queer as you like, as it has been forever because other cultures have never been binary.
I support whatever course of action fulfills you and hope your activism achieves the further goals you are working toward, and also hope you're aware that becoming a martyr is not the only or possibly most effective way you can be useful to your movement.
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