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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We're past the point of speaking out.

I would like for you to consider why the US constitution outlines free speech in its first amendment, and the right to bear arms in the second. The reason why is not that different than the principal of charity, or the social contract of tolerance. The first amendment outlines and sets speech, language, as the first step in challenging authority. But implicit in that principal, is the idea that governments are precluded from not listening, or not being available to that speech. It is literally in why the US constitution is structured the way it is, in putting limits and restraints on governments, not people.

We have devolved long past the point where free speech is respected by the US government, under any interpretation of the words.

The second, is an enshrining of the right to to the use of violence when the first is no longer being respected.

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

i like to speak up in loud bangs

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

If Trump can do it, then any president can do it. That's the real problem.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

As awful as he is, I think he serves a good example of the opposite being true. It can serve as a warning.

"If we give any President this authority, someone like Donald Trump could use it if they ever got elected."

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

But what if he can disappear people who speak out?

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Well, I look at this way.

Trump is going to fuck me and my family no matter what.

The only way Trump is not going to fuck you is if you make over $250k a year, are a white male adult, and are willing to kiss the ring.

Eventually I will be on that list of people to oppress/disappear because of who I am, not what I've done or will do. It's more than likely you or your family members will be too.

Because while they start with the outspoken, when opposition is silenced, they will move on to crush the meek with a horrible glee. In the end, it won't matter one whit to them what you do or say unless it gets in their way - it's about what they want to do to you.

So let your inner Luigi roar. They're coming for us anyway. You have a chance to speak NOW. Use it. They haven't won yet, and they won't if enough of us speak out.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Fight to you die. People will care a lot not when it escalates. You want them to show their colors as soon as possible fascism heavily depends on people slowly boiling alive until it's already to late.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

I see you haven't died from it yet. You're going first right?

[-] kittenzrulz123 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

AN INJURY TO ONE IS AN INJURY TO ALL

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[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I never thought that I would under a fascist dictatorship. What will the history books say about this.

[-] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Depends on where they are printed

[-] green@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've said this in another post, and I'll say it again.

Where are the resources? Where are the leaders? Where are the groups?

People are scrambling right now because there are a million people screaming and no one leading nor taking direction. We need courage, focus, and precision to win but everyone is acting spineless, scattered, and aloof.

We need every single person online using TOR and/or a VPN. We need an underground railroad. We need protocol to fight against ICE raids. We need places to find weapons (yes, even in blue states because a lot of people still don't own). And most importantly, as our greatest civil disobedience, we need to stop paying federal taxes. I would even like to go as far as a general strike.

So how are we going to get this and more together? Or are we instead going to sit and cry about this?

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'm donating to Sanders, I donated before and volunteered before for his presidential runs. He's not perfect by any means but I'm putting money I barely have there. I want to volunteer again, but I'd also look at AOC for organizing and raising money she is very capable. If you want to cross the line to real effort, there's some good CIA booklets you can find online about simple sabotage. It's worth looking into.

[-] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 124 points 4 days ago

Reich calls out the Führer, there's a headline that writes itself.

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[-] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 105 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Early warning signs of fascism:

1.) Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

2.) Disdain for the importance of human rights

3.) Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

4.) The supremacy of the military/avid militarism

5.) Rampant sexism

6.) A controlled mass media

7.) Obsession with national security

8.) Religion and ruling elite tied together

9.) Power of corporations protected

10.) Power of labor suppressed or eliminated

11.) Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

12.) Obsession with crime and punishment

13.) Rampant cronyism and corruption

14.) Fraudulent elections

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

so you mean to tell me my country was fascist all along

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

USA was founded by slavers who were the pre-cursors to fascism.

USA was fascist from inception even before fascism.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They helped building it, by constantly taking the "moral high ground" (succumbing to fascists, not calling them fascists because some people making racist jokes might weren't actually fascists).

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
  • Martin Niemöller

Just in case people don't know the original.

[-] badmin@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago

That's not the original.
Hint: any version that doesn't mention "communists" is "filtered".

[-] wieson@feddit.org 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Good call, I didn't know that. This is the original

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich geschwiegen,
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr,
der protestieren konnte.

It's not straight forward to translate, because there is no active verb in English for "to remain silent".

When the Nazis came and took the communists 
I remained silent
Since I wasn't a communist.

When they imprisoned the social democrats 
I remained silent
Since I wasn't a social democrat.

When they took the trade unionists 
I remained silent
Since I wasn't a trade unionist.

When they took me
There was no one left
Who could protest. 
[-] seeigel@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

And the poem doesn't mention the disabled, who died first.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Let em come. Fight till you die, if you lay down for fascism you're already dead.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I did speak out already, back when I did not have to worry about being potentially murdered by the state (or at least not nearly as much) for it and voters were apparently were like "Eh lets give the fascist a second chance."

Like, my level of resentment out weighs my desire to save the people in this country. And I already legitimately have always wanted to live forever (I know I wont, shut the fuck up), let alone not die early. I'm not sticking my head out for my skull to be crushed by a brown shirt after I already have done what I've done.

I was going to try and scrounge enough to flee to Canada what with a decent amount of savings, passport, and a Software Engineering degree but after some set backs related to my car dying and the job market imploding basically everywhere I'm now worried I might be fucking stuck here for a while. So now I'm mostly just focused on keeping my head down.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Cool, well I guess if I see brown shirts dragging you out of your house I will just hold on to my resentments about folks staying home and not voting instead of helping you.

Good luck.

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[-] Enzy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

laughs in EU

[-] FundMECFSResearch 19 points 3 days ago
[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

Gonna take more than speaking.

[-] chonk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

But what do we do? I feel so powerless

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago
[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Buy bullets. Practice shooting.

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

study history. imagine likely scenarios. learn how to avoid them. prepare prepare prepare.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Form a terrorist cell, network for it to grow, and start killing people/destroying infrastructure

Or stop pretending like buying a gun does anything and enjoy what the majority of Americans wanted

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You're not powerless, and you're not alone.

They want you to be afraid. You know how you beat fear? You fucking let your anger out. Turn that flight reflex into fight. Forge the adrenaline of threat into rage at what this Nazi fuck is doing to our country, to your neighbors, to your family, to YOU.

And then let it cool just enough so that it becomes the blade of freedom that will drive and defend you. Let it guide you tactically and strategically, and find others willing to raise their blades to join yours.

Start going to your local town halls and visit your representatives in person. Write and call them if you can't - use physical mail.

Join the protests, but with a group looking out for each other and has smart tactics - not carrying cell phones, is ready to defend themselves, masked, and has a smart exit strategy. Be aware that if the police know who you are, so do the alt-right thugs who are willing to do what the police won''t.

We beat the Nazis before. We beat the Confederacy before.

We will do it again.

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