Ah yes - the classic Trump approach.... just yell Fake News as loud as possible.
I'm seriously hopeful that the people who have historically given into this lie are wising up.
Don’t hold your breath. The Repubs will just say they haven’t read the news.
The classified plans aren't allowed out of the SCIF and the phone isn't allowed in the SCIF. Anything you learn in the SCIF cannot be stored, shared, or spoken about outside of a SCIF especially on electronic media. If anyone in the military did this, like lets say Chelsea Manning, and shared it with a journalist, like say Julian Assange, they would end up in prison for a while.
All that is true. In addition, those communications are subject to records retention laws, so using signal and flagging them to be deleted is illegal in itself.
You dumb fuck, there are screenshots of all of it, plus your own people admitted it
pete hegseth was a DUI hire.
He's in a really unique position in that he can claim to not remember doing something awful, and most likely be telling the truth.
Getting blackout drunk and sending texts isn't uncommon for raging alcoholics. Source: I used to be an alcoholic (sober for 6 years)
6 years strong! Wooooo! Congrats!
6 years, wow. Nice one. Keep it up.
The fucking White House confirmed this shit.
Working the playbook. Step 1: Deny
Lmfao
The editor in chief of The Atlantic wrote an op-ed on the whole episode, and they have corroborated and confirmed from multiple sources that he was, indeed, inadvertently shown data that is considered SCI in a Signal group chat that was likely conducted through the personal devices of administration officials.
There is no debate here. That happened. This is like rear ending someone in your car and totaling both vehicles and just refusing to even acknowledge that you even felt anything.
It's like the "We're all trying to find the guy who did this" skit with the guy in the hotdog suit and the hotdog car.
Even if everyone in the chat had a need-to-know, you do not use insecure 3rd-party software for classified communications. Secure networks already exist for this.
Not to mention why they are using it in the first place... so they can't be FOIA'd
These fucking guys only ever lie and deny.
Are we really too stupid and weak as a country to be able to do anything about this?
It would seem the case - the US is impotent while the sitting president twiddles his thumbs and denies knowing his upper eschelon staff are using unsecure comms. Makes me laugh about the tough-guy image they want versus the limp-dick energy the display.
Maybe he was drunk.
We are starting an office pool on how fast He goes into DT's during Congressional questioning. It's only fair that he sits in the chair at least as long as Hillary did.
Don't forget Tuli was on the chat too, I sure do feel safe with our inept leaders.
Definitely showing her whole anti war schtick was always bullshit. JD Vance was the only one pushing back in that thread, and not for the right reasons.
Sooo Pete didn’t do it, but trump also says that Pete learned his lesson?
US is a joke. A very dangerous joke.
Admit it but say it isn't a big deal, but also deny that it ever happened. Let your followers pick whichever version they prefer. Profit!
Ah, going with denial in the face of concrete evidence to the contrary
Classic Trump move
"You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again...This is a guy who peddles in garbage.
Hegseth then added, "oh wait, that's me."
Disgusting comments about Europe in the group chat. The USA is a pariah state; the sooner we disentangle from it, the better.
You're right Pete. It wasn't texting.
It was RCS through an untraceable encrypted messaging app named Signal
Which is WORSE since records are destroyed
He's going with the Shaggy defense? "It wasn't me". I mean, it works for them. It will probably all blow over because no one is going to do anything. But this should absolutely destroy him.
🎵Journalist caught me on Signal (It wasn't me)
He saw me schemin' on Yemen (It wasn't me)
Even list of ordinance (It wasn't me)
He even caught me on a screenshot (It wasn't me)
He saw the bombs dropping on Sanaa (It wasn't me)
Heard the words the CIA told me (It wasn't me)
Late night host laughter getting louder (It wasn't me)
Shouldn't have drunk that vodka!🎶
Jesus, these people are so fucking predictable.
House Speaker Mike Johnson to reporters on Monday after news of the messages spread: "I just was with the president in the Oval Office just now. The administration is addressing what happened. Apparently, an inadvertent phone number made it onto that thread. They are going to track that down and make sure it doesn't happen again."
Sounds great, how about we start by following fucking protocol? And not using a chat app on a damn mobile phone to have discussions on this scale?? Huh???
I'm not usually an alarmist, but this one has the hair on the back of my neck up...
This feels like a false flag to target journalists spreading "misinformation."
I was reading the Atlantic article thinking 'What a bunch of dumb fucks." Until I read this part:
The Hegseth message goes on to state, “Waiting a few weeks or a month does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risks on waiting: 1) this leaks, and we look indecisive
Hard stop right there. "This is intentional."
Then Tulsi comes out talking about "aggressively pursuing" journalists., and now P Heggs is just gonna play dumb?
Smells pretty bad, imo.
(False flag may not be the right term here, but I hope my point is still clear enough)
Fuck you Pete 'DUI Hire' Hegseth.
You used a non-approved communication application and caused a massive data leak with you and your incompetent morons in office using OpSec that my junior engineers know better and if any one else did what you did, that's be fired and be facing charges.
Fucking pathetic children who can't take any accountability.
He must have been drunk and had a blackout.
Having complete morons in charge does confer particular tactical advantages.
Prove that the sender of that message doesn't match the cryptographic fingerprint of Hegseth. If he didn't send it, then it wont match.
Signal allows you to verify all your contacts in the group chat.
This is so easy to solve. Jfc
The journalist just has to show the safety number of the person who sent it, and hegseth has to verify it with his device. They're obviously already in each others contacts, or at least are aware of each other's presence in the group chat. Its pretty hard to ignore some random journalist entering the chat since it alerts the entire group.
What makes signal great is, yes, privacy, but also the authentication of your contacts. You know you can't possibly be talking to someone else's device if you have verified their safety number.
"Wasn't me"
— Pete Hegseth
Ah yes, the classic Shaggy defense. What's that shit conservatives say? We're still in the first year.
inadvertent mistake.
Lets give the benefit of the doubt and say it was a mistake. Is that a matter and a position, where such a mistake is tolerable? Or is it something that disqualifies for any position in that domain and demands immediate resignation?
Because if you seriously make a mistake, and you realize the gravity of it, you take responsibility for it. If you instead remain in position, you either don't recognize the gravity of it, which is an even bigger reason to resign, or you indeed acted with intent.
But in this case it did not start with inviting Goldberg. It started with making a chat group on an unauthorized app, likely using unauthorized devices to discuss matters that are explicitly forbidden to be taken out of specific permitted official channels.
Witkoff in Moscow when added to chat?
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