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Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.

Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration's mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I agree that "heads should roll"...literally.

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

And just like that, everyone has stopped talking about hillary clintons emails.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Make it happen Senate. It's literally your job. So fucking do it

[-] greenhorn@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

Hegseth is now saying it didn't actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this "merit based" administration

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago

Living in the imperial core where a chat error is far bigger scandal than a genocide.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

well said. I'm surprised at the reaction towards this specific event.

the administration is purging the federal government, rerouting tens of thousands of federal agents to enforce immigration (literally 80% of ATF is now focused on immigration. DEA, FBI, IRS, and more are all being recruited to help with immigration), illegally ignoring court orders, using a Stasi-like group of unmarked federal agents to intimidate with threats of criminal prosecution and force people into compliance (look at what happened at the SS office or the non-profit U.S. Institute of Peace), giving executive orders that are blatantly and explicitly unconstitutional (like the one to end birthright citizenship)

that isn't even starting to mention the genocide happening in Palestine that is not only being condoned but openly embraced. we are arresting and attempting to deport individuals whose only crime is that they are anti-Israel. permanent residents are being denied entry into the country because they have a photo of a Hezbollah leader on their phone

the administration is using coercion and threats to force over 60 universities (Colombia being the most visible) to change the things they are teach, abandon certain policies, suppress student speech, and dramatically increase police presence. all in the name of fighting "anti-semitism"

it has only been a couple of months and right now Congress is making a stink about a text message

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

How dare you let the proles know we're bombing people for no good reason?

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[-] velvetylogic@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

The worst thing is aside from being inept and careless, there is no chance they aren't selling secrets to anyone willing to pay.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Heads should roll? Maybe, if you ask nicely, the French may share some equipment and experience.

[-] martin4598@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We actually preserved a few ones. We would be happy to provide. We can even take the 25% tarrif on our account.

[-] bamboo 58 points 3 days ago

They didn't really care about her emails with that statement, it was her pronoun which was the problem they were crying about.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'd say 50/50 because she's a woman and a Democrat.

Good thing she never wore a tan suit or used the wrong mustard, then Republicans would have done something drastic like storm the Capitol building!

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[-] leadore@lemmy.world 149 points 2 days ago

No heads will roll. What most stories miss is that the main reason they didn't use official channels for this (and most likely many of their other conversations as well) is that they don't want to comply with the Federal Records Act. They don't want there to be a record of a lot of the shit they're saying and doing and plan to do.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

This was literally in the instructional videos that Heritage made for new Trump staffers under Project2025. To do as little as possible that complies with the Federal Records Act. This is that video.

[-] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

Trump and his regime’s cabinet are truly evil and rotten to their core.

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago

I'm shocked that the administration of "Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier" would mishandle secret war plans.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago

Remember in 2016 when the entire magat crowd screamed that Hillary should be locked up for using a private, secure server that was only accessible to authorized individuals?

Surely they won't be hypocrites and try to brush this under the rug, or worse try to blame the editor-in-chief who had no desire to get wrapped up in this.

[-] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

haha, yeah, let's get them on this hypocrisy. surely this will be the last one, if we just point it down and take it to mom, everything will be set right. no real effort required.

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

thank you. people just need to stop it. we all get it. now what are we going to do about it?

no one is coming to save us.

guns.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago

Democrats..."Why I oughta...If I only...boy oh boy are you ever...sigh".

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

I think the important thing here is to not get distracted and focus on what's really important:

Hillary's emails.

[-] Ironfist@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

"should" is the key word. Trump should be in prison but he's not.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 32 points 2 days ago

The only person in real danger here is the journalist.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And the yemenis but they've got the wrong skin tone for anybody to even mention. Genocide is completely normalized.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Uh oh, they're expressing outrage now. I'm sure someone will suffer.

[-] SnotFlickerman 109 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Devil's Advocate Hot Take:

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that "We get to break rules, and you cannot." We see it as incompetence and abject hypocrisy, but it could be a purposeful leak because they don't care about being seen as hypocrites, they are about showing us they can get away with it. It could also be a Trial Balloon about the kind of wars they intend to wage.

/takes off tinfoil hat

I really think they really are just this stupid, but I think its at least worthwhile to consider the alternative, because a lot of what conservatives do is about using hypocrisy as a weapon and expression of power over others. They want us getting angry about such things, so they can can be cool and collected and say that we're overreacting because they're so calm while chuckling and sneering at us.

"But her emails!" Yeah they don't actually give a shit, they may just want to show they can get away with it. Much like Trump rejecting using a government issued cell phone in his first term and Bush "losing" millions of emails.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 51 points 3 days ago

This is an expression of power. An intentional leak to show that “We get to break rules, and you cannot.”

Hanlon's razor applies I think:

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence or stupidity"

I really think they really are just this stupid

Yep. They fired all the adults that think things through and provide rigor for a reason so the only people left are children doing whatever they want ignorant of the consequences.

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[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 76 points 3 days ago

Congress: Somebody should really do something to rein this administration in!

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.

The singular problem with Americans doing a holocaust abroad is that another country might find out about it in advance.

I mean, just think for a minute. What if we wanted to bomb a Russian orphanage or a Chinese university? They could take advantage of our data insecurity to thwart us!

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.

We're carpet bombing people on the other side of the fucking planet. This is so far outside the scope of "national security".

Absolute Ghoul Nation.

[-] Fredthefishlord 6 points 2 days ago

You're diminishing the term Holocaust by using it for something only remotely comparable.

This specific incident, no. But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You’re diminishing the term Holocaust

The US’s Role in the Hidden Genocide in Yemen

The Arab state of Yemen has been locked in a civil war since 2014—a conflict that escalated significantly in March 2015, when a Saudi-led coalition began air strikes against the Houthi rebels. This coalition has been backed by the US and the UK, despite producing a humanitarian crisis that has left 8.4 million people on the brink of famine.

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Q. You write that “even if the US and UK do not intend for their support to be used in the commission of genocide, it is irrelevant to the question of whether they are complicit in the genocide.” What is the basis for assigning responsibility to a state in this case, if intent is irrelevant?

In the case of Bosnia v. Serbia, the International Court of Justice established that shared intent is only relevant when considering whether a state conspired with another to commit genocide. For complicity, a state only needs to be aware that the aid it is providing to another state facilitates the crime being committed. In other words, if the US and UK shared the Saudi-led coalition’s genocidal intent, the aid they are providing would make them conspirators in the commission of genocide. Without shared intent, they are still complicit in the crime based on their continued material support, which has aided in the commission of genocide.

With Trump's return, we've once again gone beyond simply facilitating Saudi mass killing of Yemeni residents and gone straight into the strategic slaughter of whole neighborhoods and villages.

But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.

That the American media can only report on the exposure of the systematic mass murder of half the country's native residents as a risk to the United States illustrates the deep rot within the American psyche.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago

The really sad thing is that in this scenario only Republicans matter. As long as they keep treating Trump as some kind of god-emperor, nothing will happen.

I was going to say "treating him as a king", but England and Canada have kings and would never put up with this kind of shit from a king. England hasn't put up with kings acting this way since the Magna Carta was signed.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 days ago

God-Emperor is literally what they called him on r/thedonald

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[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago

Imagine that. You have unqualified amateurs in important government positions, and they don't know what they're doing.

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[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 days ago

From alcoholics, to heroin addicts, to ketamine fueled Nazis, the Trump administration is running like a well oiled crack addict machine.

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[-] FireAtWill@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

I agree with those who think nothing will happen. Screw ups are an everyday thing for these clowns.

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