For anybody who thinks that animals in their natural environment are all happy...yeah imagine living for decades without any sort of dental care. Evolution is about surviving, not thriving.
It's odd to me that anyone fantasizes about nature in general being peaceful. Especially when the plot of most nature documentaries can be summarized as "fall in love with this creature, then experience the stress of watching it struggle desperately to survive."
This little cunt of mine tended to inflame every other month instead of teething already. I decided to remove it, and I ended up spending almost 2 hours in surgery because it had fused into another tooth. Instead of coming out cleanly, it broke and a few fragments were left behind
Doc said it was okay to leave it as it would be absorbed or come out again eventually. Almost a year later, and the little prick sends his regards by inflaming my face completely and having to rush to surgery again.
Hopefully it was the end of that. Fuck this SOB
Human mandible shrank a bit the last millenia, probably thanks to the rise of agricolture and easily chewable food, but that left less space for teeth to grow properly
"Intelligent Design"
Fucking LOL
I think a lot of folks assume that evolution means "all the crappy stuff whittled out over time, and only the good stuff remains" when in fact I think evolution aims for "eh, they reproduced. Good enough"
Creationist love to bring up all the wonderful things in the world. They tend not to bring up things like the recurrent laryngeal nerve or bot flies.
In fact, I think they're confused as to why science would even bring these up. If evolution is a religion (as they often claim), why would that religion point to something so weird or ugly? The answer is that evolution just is, and it does weird and ugly things sometimes. Our job is to study the weird and ugly things it makes while also finding a better moral system than mere evolution.
Well, see, your mistake is brushing your teeth and living past 30. If your back molars were properly rotten enough to gracefully pop out when the wisdoms grew in, and then you died before that one rotted and you couldn't chew anymore, you wouldn't have any problems.
Literally.
Ancient humans had surprisingly good teeth. They weren't soaked in acid and sugar.
Depends on where they were and what they were eating. Humans are really amazing in that we can eat almost anything that's not a straight up tree, and we've existed across the planet in just about every ecological niche. I remember reading somewhere they could estimate the age of desert burial/skeleton remains on how worn the teeth are due to the sand getting in the food. But I'm sure no processed sugar is pretty beneficial tho
Not all. Pre industrial humans where I live ate a lot of slow roasted cactus. After 2 days buried with hot stones the cactus hearts were caramelized. I've tasted it prepared in the traditional manner and it's just syrup in a leaf. Delicious, and I have no doubt it was great energy for people that had to walk miles every day.
Anyone that lived past 30 had their teeth rot right out of their head, according to the archiological record.
Still may have lost a few from some bucking animal you were chasing after. Or your cousin chucking a rock at the *bird" he said he saw behind you.
Evolutionarily, it only matters that you reproduce.
I can‘t even do that. The reason: Skill issue
… and that your children survive to reproduce
Otherwise we’d have no incentive to care for our kids.
Mine were growing directly sideways. I'm an evolutionary failure.
So were mine. They had to shatter most of them to get them out.
Passed out from the pain the first time I tried to eat post operation, lol
You had no pain killers?
With the pain killers! Found out that I'm very sensitive pain that day.
I guess I should buy a lottery ticket, then, because my wisdom teeth came in pretty much straight. The only problem I ever have is getting anything back there for cleaning.
Evolution meant to tell you to get out of the gene pool.
It's because humans in the wild would lose teeth by that time and need more.
Pre-dentistry, a bunch of your teeth would have fallen out before your wisdom teeth came in. There would have been space for the wisdom teeth so they wouldn't need to come in sideways.
We used to have larger mouths, they've been shrinking as we evolved
they’ve been shrinking as we ~~evolved~~ changed our diet
No genetic changes (evolution) happened. If as children we ate only very tough meat and lots of chewy vegetables - no bread or rice or potato softness - our same genetics would result in much larger adult jaws.
That's right, my bad
Are you sure about that? We lost so many teeth after the industrialisation of sugar production (machines and slavery) but I'm not sure how bad it was before then.
Not cleaning teeth is pretty bad for teeth.
Teeth used to get cleaned by means of chewing harder food regularly, and they needed less cleaning to start with due to a lot less sugar in those foods though
So I searched it up. Food that was more abrasive, no refined carbs, more fibrous, more meat, less grain, more tannins. And ancient toothbrushes from frayed twigs, which also contained natural antimicrobials!
Thanks for prompting this educational exchange!
This is what gets me about the sentiment of "humans lived for hundreds of thousands of years without toothpaste/sunscreen/antibiotics/vaccines/etc and we were just fine!"
My dude, we were most definitely not fine. A lot of people died painful and preventable deaths, many of them children, and we're around today because existing that way was just good enough to keep us going as a species.
"They were just fine!" You mean that the 40-60% of people who lived past 15 were just fine until about 50-70?
Just because people still lived a long time doesn’t mean they had a good time living.
Can still hear the sound of them breaking it to get it out
All four of my wisdom teeth were impacted, and it took around six hours for them to be removed. Thankfully, I was unconscious during the procedure.
"You really shouldn't be awake for this" - the orthodontist crushing my sideways wisdom teeth with pliers so he can rip the shards out individually.
Me: does nothing
Evolution: fuck you
Pre-anethesia, you mean. There were dentists around for a long time, but I don't think you would've enjoyed being their patient...
Fun (horrifying) fact: the reason barber poles have red on them is to represent the blood from when they offered tooth extractions
Born without wisdom teeth...
Not sure if that makes me more evolved or less lol
Mine's are pointing 90° on the wrong direction.
They are dormant but I've warned that if they decide to start being funny I'll be fucked. :D
Evolution didn't make your teeth to grow like this. While people in the past probably had shitty teeth keep in mind that modern diets filled with sugars, processed food and all sort of junk are a cause of teeth problems
That’s a wisdom tooth. They just grow like that, no sugar needed (I am wrong)
Oh yes, the Geological Faultocalized inside my mouth. I had four of them.
Every time people say "it'd be nice to live in the 50s" or something like that, I always think: "Nope, I'd never trade modern medicine for anything else."
Hell, even just 30 years ago was way different. My experience of getting a root canal in 2024 was a million times better than when I had one in the ‘90s.
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