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[-] PantanoPete@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

When I was growing up in India I believed that I was surrounded by the dumbest and most ignorant people on earth, then I moved to the US for a while and was surprised most people remembered to breathe.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

I guess the idea behind a "measles party" is to introduce the virus to the child's immune system so that they can develop antibodies for it?

Damn, if only there was a safer way. Like if a doctor could introduce a very small amount of the virus to the child's immune system. Do you think a dead virus would be enough for the immune system to learn what it is and how to fight it? Why aren't scientists working on this?!

[-] kazaika@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just a small akshually : Viruses cant be dead or alive because the have no metabolism anyway so most (modern) vaccines work by extracting their mrna or the lipids on their surface and injecting that. Injecting a small portion of whole viruses my still infect you. Fyi

Edit: ok I talked some garbage here: while viruses do not have a metabolism and thereby are, by the definition of some, not alive, there is apparently a way to make vaccines by destroying the genome of the virus via heat or chemicals and using the "shells" to make vaccines..

Source (disclosure: website owned by vaccine producer) here

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

mRNA vaccines are, of course, just the absolute tits - but they're a tiny proportion of modern vaccines and the very first ones are one a few years old, created to treat COVID. But yeah, 100%, we don't use the virus in the vaccine! Even the first ever vaccine was (as you will know) not created from the disease it was meant to treat, but from one similar enough that it gave protection to the other. And smallpox doesn't exist any more so, well, that worked out pretty well didn't it. You don't give someone the virus to stop them getting that virus, but you might well give them a virus, in an attenuated form of the target

What's hilarious to me is that this was totally a Thing when I was younger.

Not for measels, because we weren't braindead dumbfucks, but for chickenpox.

You'd have whole groups of kids get together to have everyone get sick at once, instead of one kid at a time for months and months as it spreads through classes at school.

IDK if it made sense, but it was legit a thing that people were doing.

Of course, there's a vaccine now, so if you're still doing this you're one of the aformentioned braindead dumbfucks.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago

Measles? No no no, we're talking America here, you mean

Freedom Sores

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

as vaccination rates plummet, freedom ~~soars~~ sores

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

Texas is banning Gender Affirming Care FOR ADULTS, so yeah fuck Texas

[-] aeternum 12 points 1 day ago

If only there was some way to control measles. Oh well, wishful thinking i guess.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

You cannot control freedom freckles.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago
[-] filtoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Pro life starts at conception, pro life ends at birth

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Carlin said it best:

"If your prelife, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked!"

And:

"Conservatives like live babies because they grow up to be dead soldiers."

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

Ya know when Conservatives died of Covid in massive numbers because they kept refusing to intentionally antagonize the people fighting Covid and every restriction put in place against it the only thing going through my head was

"I hope enough of them kicked the bucket to make Republicans unelectable so that tragedies like this can't happen again."

Guess what's going through my head now?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I'm sad that it's children paying the price though. They don't have any say in anything. It's child abuse to intentionally infect them with a preventable disease.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 29 points 2 days ago

Texas... warns AGAINST something dumb?

Genuine surprise over here.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

According to RFK, measle outbreaks are normal. Religion and bleach will save Deregulated Texas and if the shit spreads, the USA too.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

rfk jr brains just all worms controlling the body, hes just a husk.

[-] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 days ago

Way too many entries for the Darwin Awards this year

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

theres a subreddit called hermain cain, i think that started to include this measles epidemic.

[-] prole 105 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We are careening toward the "end-game" for the rampant anti-intellectualism, anti-science, anti-critical thinking mind virus that plagued this country for at least the past 80 years.

This is what happens when you condition people for nearly a century, to get angry and defensive when someone who's more versed on a subject tries to teach them something (or god forbid, correct them). It has become a kneejerk reaction for so many Americans (mostly conservatives). They are so insecure that they view any type of education as a direct insult to them or some stupid bullshit like that. Like deep down, they know how ignorant they are, but for some reason they'd prefer to stay that way, so anyone who challenges that (regardless of how pure the motive), is a "smug piece of shit talking down to them."

And instead of even retaining what the person said, let alone learning it, they become even more radicalized against... well, reality.

I truly have no idea how something like this can ever be fixed at this level. We're talking over 50 million people give or take tens of millions (unsure how many have regrets).

And this is nation-ending shit.

Edit: Slightly related, but something I just thought about... Imagine if we ever have a prion-based pandemic (if that's possible?). That could straight up be the end of humankind. Prions are terrifying.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 31 points 2 days ago

This is what happens when you construct a society around screwing everyone else over while preaching cooperation. People stop trusting everything

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[-] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

Well you know what they say...what doesn't kill you makes you have fewer cells that produce antibodies.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 132 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

mortality rate of 3% for unvaccinated kids.

gonna be a lot of depression-era grieving going on.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 110 points 3 days ago

as always the price is paid by those without a choice

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago

People focus on mortality too while failing to account for the sorts of lifelong disabilities viruses like these cause when you do survive them. Absolutely sickening.

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[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago

3 percent of kids dead is a small price to pay for Texans to not have to reevaluate how they make decisions.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Measles wipes your immune system as well. You'll be having a miserable next decade or longer getting sick from everything again.

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

And here I thought the pandemic craziness was an outlier

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Try and control those rabidly ignorant bigots you force-fed with anti-science, anti-reason raw red meat, let's see how that goes.
This is 'Murica! Muh freehdum!

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 59 points 2 days ago

And when the Great Corruption has settled over the land, and permeated the very foundations of reality itself, then shall the Lord of All rise from the rot and ruin, spread his arms wide to reclaim all his children.

May Grandpa nurgle bless everyone of them

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Have fun fighting a culture war against pathogens, Texas

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[-] Forestial@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Fuck Texas, its politicians and its stupid parents.

Me being an introvert with zero friends and hate parties: 👀

[-] iMastari@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Stupid is as stupid does.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 53 points 2 days ago

It'll continue to spread, as well. Last Friday, someone with contagious measles spent hours touring 2 Texas campuses, hours in college bars and restaurants, and hours in crowded tourist attractions. Next Friday, one of those colleges starts spring break - and it takes 2 weeks for the rash to start showing up. Some of those college students will have caught measles and will go on spring break, where they'll spread measles to other spring breakers. Three weeks from now, there'll be outbreaks in every state in the Union.

If you weren't vaxxed, you were under-vaxxed, not sure if you got vaxxed, or think the vax might not have taken, now it's an excellent time to get vaxxed.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

It depends on how badly we've fallen under herd immunity, but it does seem likely.

You can catch measles by entering a room, such as a classroom, where another student had measles two hours before.

Unvaccinated people are going to pay for the ignorance of their parents real soon.

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[-] takeda@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago

Measles parties is the stupidest thing I heard. It is not chickenpox (although even chickenpox instead of vaccine causes risk of having shingles once you get older), it can cause serious health issues and even death.

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[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 3 days ago

Ya got measles? Bring the kids over! We got enough raw milk for all of y'all!

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[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Measles can cause immune amnesia, meaning your immune system forgets past illnesses and will have to go through initial sicknesses again.

[-] kudra@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

Yup. It's why so many died, not from measles, but from other diseases in the 3-5 years after they had measles. IIRC they only really worked this out in the last 5-10 years because of the amount of data to comb through.

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[-] 0101100101@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Twenty thousand tons of ivermectin to Texas. Stat! That'll fix everything!

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