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It has to be done. We have to show we will tolerate imperialistic ambitions no more! USA can go f. itself. Weak and pathetic.
we're working on it, dont worry. we'll be well and truly fucked =)
I wonder, if it would be cheaper to just hire a russian hitman to take out putin and his goons. He causes the death of thousands of people every day. It seems unfair he gets to live in safety.
It'd be cheaper, certainly, but I don't think it'd solve the problem. I doubt that anyone likely to succeed him is much different to him
Not better people no, but they could hang the whole mess on Putin and have cover to end the war.
They can just keep hiring hitmen until there's just chill successors left 😆
I disagree, there is no obvious successor which is deliberate on Putin's part, so the battle for succession will be at the very least distracting for the military leadership and quite likely to lead to actual conflict. If they're shooting each other they're not shooting Ukrainians
I'd be the last person I would ask war insights from, but the Russian state is just one big bully cock swinging contest, so I also think if Putin would perish, in their crashing economy, the men next in line would all be falling over each others cocks to get to the throne first, causing significant destabilization. I sure hope so, it seems only fair after all the horror and death they have caused under some bullshit pretense.
Who says that hasn't been tried?
John
Nobody fucks up the ruling class of another country just like the US. You have to install a puppet at the helm of the newly "liberated" country. So the EU would first have to find Western loving people in Russia, fund the fuck out of them, bribe current officials, and get somebody close enough to Putin to "depose" him. It takes planning and would probably take more than a year, during which they still have to fund Ukraine.
I imagine massively investing in defense and helping out Ukraine will also be a long-term strategy to prevent the same thing happening in the future to the Baltics.
Nobody fucks? Russia is fucking with elections all over the globe.
Well done on not using the entire quote. Do you work for right-wing media?
You say that as if he changed the meaning, but he didn't.
Wow, reading comprehension really is atrocious here. I understand why right-wing media has such an easy time spreading fake news. Even with my sentence a scroll away it has been too difficult for you and some others to read the entire thing.
Right wing media usually don’t acknowledge Russia messing with elections because they can’t admit their saviour Trump had outside help.
lolol none of that is required. you can just take out the leadership and let chaos reign. but then everyone migrates out and you have to deal with that nonsense.
You don't think Putin will have a successor willing to continue the attack on Ukraine? He didn't come up with this himself.
Doesnt matter. You just repeat the process silly. The bigger issue is the destabilization of the governance impacting the population migration patterns.
Once you destabilize a government everyone around that country has to deal with influxes in population.
I'm not so familiar with bluesky, but it turns out there's actually an
ARTICLE:
https://united24media.com/latest-news/europe-eyes-unprecedented-eur700-billion-military-aid-plan-for-ukraine-5981
“We will launch a large package, the likes of which we have never seen before,” Baerbock told Bloomberg during the Munich Security Conference.
Baerbock is the German Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Thanks, should have posted that instead, I was just so exited to see this news :-)
That's OK I forgive you. 😋
At least it wasn't a Xitter link. 👍
Wow this is insanely good news. 👍 😀
I'm guessing this includes plans that span more than 1 year, so probably not 700 billion in 2025 alone, but really looking forward to hear the details. 😎
Good, unfortunately they can no longer rely on us (USA) with a president who literally just spewed russian propaganda.
Traitors all of them.
Baerbock added that peace can only be achieved through strength, stating that “this requires hard and long-term security guarantees for Ukraine, a strong NATO, and progress in Ukraine’s EU accession talks.”
Thank you Mr Trump, for kicking the EU leaders in the ass to take up them up. It's been too long. Hopefully the majority will realise just how important it is to help Ukraine and end the war sooner than later without pussyfooting around the issue.
Trump is an idiot, but he is still an expert in manipulation. So I wouldn't be surprised if this was exactly what he wanted. He has been very consistent that Europe needs to do more on defense, and now we do.
True, but it will, over time, seriously damage the US military industry. Europe won’t want to spend their money there, and nobody wants equipment that can only be used as approved by Trump.
I think so too, Trump is an idiot, so even getting what he wants, he doesn't really understand the implications.
No Trump is in bed with Putin. He wanted Ukraine to just roll over and die and Putler to win. This is not in his plans. And no he's not an expert in manipulation.
It shall be interesting to see how he reacts.
He literally just spewed a bunch of russian propaganda. Said Ukraine needs to hold an election and that zlenski has a 4% approval rating. He's a traitorous piece of shit.
Yes seems like betting on the lowest denominator regarding Trump is the safer bet.
It will still be interesting to see how he reacts to mostly every country in the world being against him on this?
Unfortunately he doesn't care. He's a dipshit isolationist who wants to take over panama, Canada and Greenland...we should be going 1776 on his ass.
More like 1789, but right
From what I understood it's more EU will increase their military spending up to 700bn and in it there is the Ukrainian package (which imply that EU is just doubling their military spending).
Even if it's that, I wonder if it was on putler bingo card since it means that EU spending will be almost on par with US spending while having common border with ruzzia, an Ukraine close to joining that alliance and with EU article 42-7 that will protect once and for all Ukraine from ruzzia once the peace is settled.
He must be enraged by that huge increase in military spending and that's good :)
I wonder if it was on putler bingo card
🤣 🤣 🤣
Love that. Go Europe!
Probably wrong by an order of magnitude. But still good.
In which direction? It seems like the correct reported amount is 700B EUR
True. Source seems legit. Thought it was click bait.
It really is insane though. It's more than double of all grants US and EU put together so far.
Huge big if true energy.
More money for war..
"If you want peace, prepare for war."
I'm just dying to hear what your solution is.
So we should just let Ukraine fall, which would embolden Russia to start wars in other countries to take them over, too?
Nobody really wants that, but considering the circumstances, we need to be able to defend ourselves.
Lack of military power is apparently still today an invitation for maniacs like Putin.
So it's not actually money for war, it's money to deter it. At what point have you seen EU being aggressive militarily?
EU was created to ensure the peace in Europe, but Russia has broken that thoroughly.
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