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[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 51 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I feel like people forgot that this was the compromise.

If they'd like us to go back to dragging the boss out of his home in the middle of the night and beating him to death in front of his family I'm cool with that.

[-] match@pawb.social 10 points 4 days ago

get luigi a 1up

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 34 points 4 days ago

Oh, wow.

That went after the cops, too.

That was really fucking stupid of them, you reward your foot soldiers just well enough to make them trust the system enough to defend it with their lives against their own class.

You let the cop "union" thrive and they'll kick every teacher to death on their overtime pay with gusto.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Probably don't have to pay them, they'll do it for free.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

What they want is not pay, but the ability of harassing minorities.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 115 points 6 days ago

He included police unions? He's fucked. Republican voters don't give a crap about teachers or firefighters, but he messed with the cops that they vehemently pretend to support.

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 77 points 6 days ago

They originally tried to exempt police unions but were told that would be too blatantly illegal and the whole thing would be struck down, so they did this instead.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 37 points 6 days ago

My money is the police unions will just ignore this; or even more on brand, they'll invent some new with that just means collective bargaining, but only for police.

[-] prole 9 points 5 days ago

that would be too blatantly illegal

Unlike 90% of the other shit they're doing...

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[-] CanadaResists@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

I think the Presudwbtsxrejease of rioters who attacked police officers on Capitol Hill made it pretty clear to cops that the GOP was never actually on their side.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

General strike from teachers, firefighters and police it is, then.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Don't count on cops for solidarity, even with something this blatant.

[-] randoot@lemmy.world 82 points 6 days ago

The ruling class forgets how the unions were the compromise to allow them to keep their heads attached to their bodies

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago

I don't think they've forgotten. They're just confident that the culture war trap they've built will keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves.

[-] danny801@lemm.ee 19 points 5 days ago

Americants won't do anything about it

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Well, there was this one guy recently...

[-] diskmaster23@lemmy.one 3 points 5 days ago

There are plenty of unsung heros.

[-] icmpecho@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 days ago

would be a shame if EMS were slow to respond to an emergent need for medical care for one Utah governor. why did they think this was a good idea??

[-] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

That's now how this works. Time to beat the Governor to death.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I love picturing this being said matter of factly from a husband to a spouse over morning coffee.

"Oh no, well that's now how this works at all... Time to beat the Governor to death, dear. Well, off I go for the day, see you at dinner"

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The police certainly had this coming, although I now feel very bad for firefighters and teachers in Utah

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

They're going to privatise all three.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago

Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 38 points 6 days ago

The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).

[-] CanadaResists@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I’m super pro union but your arguments are sloppy.

In 1981 Reagan fired and banned for life over 11,000 striking Air Traffic controllers. People sadly haven’t forgotten.

Without cops, what does a person assaulted or burgled do? How are the 20K+ murders a year investigated? Firefighters? They respond primarily to medical emergency. And about a million fire incidents a year.

The world stops without teachers working. Many people rely on them for childcare so that they can go to work. Air traffic controllers are very important. But many orders of magnitude less important for our economy than teachers.

We can discuss abolition of cops some other time, but we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this. They and firefighters are not on the critical path of daily capitalism like teachers though.

[-] prole 6 points 5 days ago

Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that's striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who's going to be there to pick up the reigns?

[-] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

That's the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.

[-] prole 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

who’s going to be there to pick up the reigns?

Exactly. Read Project 2025.

[-] CanadaResists@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

I agree with your sentiment but they know what will happen sadly. Back in 1981, Reagan fired all 11,353 air traffic controllers who were “illegally” striking. He also banned them for life from working for the Fed Govt.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Who did he replace them with? Were all the planes just grounded for a year while they looked for and trained new hires?

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 39 points 5 days ago

They should strike anyways.

[-] Maeve@midwest.social 46 points 5 days ago

Unions, collective bargaining and striking were illegal, to begin with. People actually skipped work and meals to strike, form unions, and radically protest to give us these things. Before pto, unemployment insurance, and social safety nets existed.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 55 points 6 days ago

Isn't that functionally banning unions altogether? Collective bargaining is the whole purpose of a union...

Not familiar with American union laws, but that's protected federally is it not? (aside from the fact that this administration isn't 'protecting' anything, let alone unions)

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago

Given the current political climate nothing is illegal.

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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago

If we can't bargain legally I suppose we just need to remind them why they gave us a legal option for union organization in the first place.

Before unions, it was the style at the time to go to the boss and ask for a raise by saying “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”

Just a reminder 🥰

[-] prole 2 points 5 days ago

There is a spectre haunting North America...

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Don't worry the Federal government will step .... Oh they just crippled the agency that prevents this. How convenient.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/business/nlrb-trump-musk-workers/index.html

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

Let the buildings burn down. Firefighters don’t have to use a union to show why the working class is the real source of power.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Make sure to clearly advertise the dates of the strike. So we can be especially cautious on those days. Especially around government buildings. That would just be awful and unfair if the people that passed the ban were directly affected.

[-] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Union prevent heads in sticks, time for heads on sticks

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 34 points 6 days ago

Wow…this is gonna make America so great

[-] JamieSTL 9 points 5 days ago

Honestly surprised by cops being included in this. Wonder if that will bring major backlash in such a conservative state.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Narrator: it won't. They are too far gone with the indoctrination. They'll lament and get back in line, to cheer for the next one who got fucked that isn't them

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago

My only surprise is they didn’t add nurses and doctors after that show of force went down, state wide, in Oregon this year.

[-] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That's a good way to keep people out of a profession.

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