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[-] Mk23simp 39 points 1 month ago

22 countries have never been invaded by the British yet.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 21 points 1 month ago

Hmmm.

When were Holland, Belgium, France, Germany, Spain , Portugal, Italy, Switzerland, Austria or Romania invaded by the British?

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Germany, and probably Austria: World War 2

At the time the Netherlands and Belgium were occupied by Germany. Don’t know if that counts.

France: Probably during the Hundred Years’ war.

[-] LarsIsCool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Weird to exclude Luxembourg from that as they were also occupied by Germany and freed by the Allied forces

Edit: checked the book and:

  • Netherlands, The: it counts the Battle of the Sluys and other various navel battles fought on Dutch territory as valid examples
  • Belgium: it counts the battles that were fought on the land that is now Belgium, so not counting from its creation. It also counts assisting the local people, so for example fighting off the French in defense together with the Flemish

So the book is taking "invasion" more lenient than the comment section:

  • The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.

The introduction also states "invasion, had some control over, or fought conflicts in the territory"

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Italy, probably WW2 too (operation dragoon)

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Maybe they are counting any wars where the British fought? If so, the two world wars would account for a lot of it.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 3 points 1 month ago

Still Switzerland? We weren’t invaded in WW2 or WW1.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

Switzerland was a part of the wars of the 2nd, 5th and 6th coalition against Napoleon against the British.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they are. It's bullshit.

[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Rampjaar. 1672. We where the dutch republic back then so it included belgium, Luxembourg. We had a lot of wars before and after between us and the English in which the english took a lot of our colonies by fotce.

Belgium was "invaded" during WW1 and again during WW2.

Spain: ever heard of Gibraltar?

The English fucked with everyone who had a ship back then.

[-] leftascenter@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago

Parts of probably, e.g. Gibraltar

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • Netherlands - Holmes’ Bonfire, 1666, 1944
  • Belgium - Napoleonic wars — Waterloo
  • France - (as England) 1230, 1337-60, 1369-89, 1373, 1415-53, 1562, (as Britain) 1794, 1795, 1813, 1815, 1944
  • Germany - 1914-18, 1944-5
  • Spain - 1808-13
  • Italy - 1944-45
  • Austria - 1945
[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The Britain's invaded Britain. Power move.

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

So many times depending on who you trace modern Brits to. Romans invaded the Celts. Saxons invaded the Romans. Normans invaded the Saxons. And that's just England. Wales and Scotland could probably come up with another dozen plus examples between them

[-] Nighed@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

I guess the civil war counts?

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's the American Revolution.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Horseshit, half the countries in the world didn't even bother getting around to existing until long after the British put the great project on pause

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

The map is bullshit tbh. It includes countries where the brits actually helped achieve independence (the Baltics after WWII).

The definition of invasion according to the book is apparently "has fought in conflicts in territory".

E.g Sweden is uninvaded according to this map. If Norway invades Sweden and the UK goes to help Sweden, it'll count as the brits having invaded Sweden for this map.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup, when did Britain invade Poland, Lithuania, Estonia or Latvia?

[-] AntelopeRoom@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Their politics still sucks to this day.

[-] LarsIsCool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To clarify a lot of confusion I see in the comments. This book considers a country to be invaded when:

  • At any point during the history of England, Whales, northern Ireland, Scotland, and or significant predecessors any army of theirs "invaded",

  • Counting any part of the land that is now considered part of the UN country. So not only from when the country existed,

  • And being invaded meaning they had some control over, or fought conflicts in the territory.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

To distinguish Chad and Romania, Romania should add the UK flag in a corner (like New Zealand)

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

US?

Edit: I am incorrect. I didn't see the "never" in the title.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well, The British? What do you have to say for yourselves?!

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Loves me empire, hates immigrants, simple as.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Please calm down and would the outstanding 22 form an orderly queue.

[-] Elkot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Looks like the US is going to try to break this record

[-] waigl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the British never invaded South Sudan…

[-] John@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago

They saw the Flag of Ivory Coast and thought they allready invaded it.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The Brit fears the Mongolian

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Don't rush them! They're doing their best. If anything, the Tories have been working with US Republicans to get things back on track.

[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Rule #1 to not get invaded: Hide your country as centrally as possible in your continent.

[-] pancho@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

At first I thought that it was a bit of a stretch to include Brazil there, but I think that you can say that if you consider the English corsairs/pirates activity during the early period of Portuguese colonization.

Edit: also, probably that's the reason why the indland countries in South America are out of this list.

[-] wicked_angel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago
[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think they ever invaded the entirety of the Arabian Peninsula, they had protectorates: Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, South Yemen, and the seven emirates that later formed UAE.

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