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[-] Obelix@feddit.org 56 points 1 week ago
[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago

wow, and the bomb only needs a yield of 1620 times the largest nuclear bomb ever deployed.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

"Nuclear explosions are inherently unsafe"

Well, he warns about it.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Nuclear explosions are inherently unsafe…

…but fuck them fish!

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

"Barren seafloor"

"That's what we call your mom Kevin!"

[-] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

And states the main problem, with a deep ocean detonation, would be fallout.

I'm not sure that's right. The shockwave of a bomb that insane could easily have seismic and tsunami effects. Probably be the biggest mass of dead fish floating at the surface, too.

Should probably talk to some geologists first.

Give some ear plugs to the whales

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[-] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Would 1,620 of those bombs work instead?

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

perhaps, though you'd have to dig a much bigger hole. however, the paper points out that the sheer military uselessness of such an enormous bomb would be crucial to making it legal or politically feasible. the international community would be understandably sus of anyone wanting to make 1620 tsar bombas.

[-] sober_monk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the link, interesting read! I know that a good paper is succint, but honestly, I thought that making the case for a gigaton-yield nuclear explosion to combat climate change would take more than four pages...

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

Study conclusion: YOLO

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It's quite light on details.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

The only way that works is if all the oil execs are in ground zero.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I have a similar modest proposal to solving the wealth inequality hoarding problem of billionaires

[-] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Someone needs to work out the inheritance fallout. With our luck it will still fall within the same families, or the government.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Government is fine. Remember money is just IOUs from the government, if billionaires assets were sold and the money went to government it would be deflationary, all money in circulation would become more valuable

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 27 points 1 week ago

I think y'all are missing the point here.

It's really to justify the production and testing of an insanely large planet altering weapon that would create a really cool firework.

[-] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 18 points 1 week ago

The only way to convince conservatives to fight climate change is if we do it with guns and bombs

[-] Liz@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

If it gets the job done, I'm willing to make that compromise.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago
[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 1 week ago

Ah. I suppose building an 81 gigaton nuclear weapon wouldn't be small.

Let's fire up the antimatter then!

[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I think they underestimate a military's desire to use all of the things that go boom.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Seems half-baked. Well unbaked really. They make a shit ton of assumptions that I’m not sure are true.

For example, why do they assume 90% pulverization efficiency of the basalt? Or is that a number they just pulled out of their ass?

And does ERW work if the pulverized rock is in a big pile on the sea floor? Or would we have to dig the highly radioactive area up and spread it around the surface?

And does the radioactive water truly stay at the site of the explosion? Or will it be spread through the entire ocean via currents?

Cool concept but, like, maybe we should check the assumptions a little harder?

[-] kozy138@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

Some people would literally rather nuke the planet than take a train to work...

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

And does ERW work if the pulverized rock is in a big pile on the sea floor? Or would we have to dig the highly radioactive area up and spread it around the surface?

Yeah..... Doesn't the carbon sequestering happen from rain absorbing carbon in the atmosphere and then attaching to the rock to mineralize it? Something tells me 6-7 km of ocean might impede that process.

And does the radioactive water truly stay at the site of the explosion? Or will it be spread through the entire ocean via currents?

Dilution is the solution.........ocean big?

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Dilution was supposed to be the solution to the whole greenhouse gasses emissions, turns out atmosphere not … that big.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 week ago

Also would it kill all the sea life leading to a large amount of greenhouse gas emissions from all the decomposing fish corpses? Does undersea decomposition release greenhouse gases?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

And doesn't plankton already sequester CO2 on the ocean floor when it dies?

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I mean… if we’re being honest, the long-term effects of global thermonuclear war would be (very eventual) carbon sequestration in tens to hundreds of millions of years, and then we’ll renew our oil reserves! We of course won’t be around to use them, seeing as we’ll have been sequestered into the oil.

[-] mlfh@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

Being sequestered into the oil sounds pretty nice at this point.

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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 18 points 1 week ago

Every proposal to save the world ultimately comes back to the plot of The Core

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

You mean the smash hit 2003 documentary The Core?

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, by plot I of course mean those things that happened

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Just spitballing here. These grand ideas good/bad practical/or not are the beginning of mankind learning how to geo engineer planets or moons. I'll be long dead before I get proven right or wrong so it's easy to spitball

[-] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Gotta nuke somethin'.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

This is “nuke the hurricane”-level science.

[-] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Uh oh. What an apropos American way to go.

[-] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

That would just make the molepeople mad and double our problems

[-] Ack@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

They already hate us surface dwellers!

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[-] FoolishObserver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I feel like the podcast Behind The Bastards talked about this in the episode released today.

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit

It's the only way to be sure

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

I've got my fingers crossed for a Snowpiercer set up.

[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Carbon sequestration is not going to solve global warming. CO2 is less than 2% of atmosphere. Even if you pass a shitton of air through the strata the difference will be negligible.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Water absorbs a lot of co2 and removing it from the water via weathering is a valid idea.

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[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

The point is that it's a passive process, not an active one. No need for pumping.

Water is so much denser than air that you do get more exposure time per unit time.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is by far the most practical "geoengineering" solution I've seen, far better than aerosols over the arctic, space shades or whatever. The ecological damage is comparatively miniscules.

And even then... quite a engineering feat. Nukes are actually "cheap" to scale up (a small bomb can catalyze big, cheap cores), but burying that much volume "3-5 km into the basalt-rich seafloor" is not something anyone is set-up to do.

But by far the hardest part is... information. Much of the world doesn't even believe in climate change anymore, and by the time they do, it will be too late.

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago
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