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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago

The system didn't fail them, voters did.

If being convicted of 34 felony counts of fraud and civil liability for rape did nothing to persuade voters then there was nothing Jack Smith could have done to change their minds either.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is the real nail in the coffin.

Take Trump and Republicans entirely out of the equation and you're still left with a majority of braindead stupid Americans. That problem ain't going away anytime soon.

Our populace simply isn't intelligent enough to maintain a democracy.

We're cooked.

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago

While voters do share some responsibility, they correctly mobilized and ripped this asshole out of office 5 years ago. The voters were failed by Merrick Garland, who clearly didn't think treason or insurrection were that big of a deal.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but that took an unprecedented situation (once in a century pandemic) and a million+ dead Americans. He absolutely would have won a second term if COVID didn't happen.

American voters are pretty goddamn stupid and there's really no way around that.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 280 points 3 days ago

The US is looking pretty fucked right now. RIP

[-] Lon3star@lemmy.world 110 points 2 days ago
[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago

I did not. I did my damnedest in order to try and inform everybody who was around me. I try to help bring up all of the aspects and all of the problems. Our biggest failure is all those who didn't even vote. Not those who did but those who couldn't even be assed to get off of theirs and go out and fill out the form. But let me Tell you what this administration did Nazi coming.... My unadulterated ass now being even more bold and happy just telling them to fuck off. Might as well start feeding them the same bullshit they've been doing to us for the last eight years. I am now refusing to do absolutely anything involved with anything that they want done I am going to drag my dick on everything and anything I might construe as being helpful to their cause. I'm going to bitch and moan as loudly as possible . I'm going to be the most cantankerous pain in the ass that anybody has ever come across.

That orange fuck can get stuffed should have stayed in oompa loompa land maybe And I'm just saying maybe lighten up on the amount of tanning cream that he's using or at least tell his apprentices they need to slow up cuz we all know Mr tiny hands is incapable of squeezing the fucking bottle himself. Don't want to accidentally use too much energy might be construed as exercise and that might actually physically kill him God damn medical oddity. How can somebody eat that poorly and do literally nothing and still be walking around.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 40 points 2 days ago

The biggest failure was the Democrats who nominated Biden in 2020. That primary was the last offramp that could have avoided a fascist takeover, either in 2024 or 2028, with Trump or a Trump clone.

The return of Trump might just have bought us another shot in 2028, but it's not looking like the Democrats have learned much. Trump has a lot of similarities to Hoover and, as bad a President as he was, he was great for Democrats and progressivism. If the Democrats can get their heads out of their asses, the Trump Presidency might open a path to save the country - assuming we survive it.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 41 points 2 days ago

The biggest failure

I'd argue it started with Hillary, when the dems basically ignored their constituents and put her on the ticket.

Should have been Bernie... it was rigged in her favor and they've been reaping the bullshit of that cheat since...

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 32 points 2 days ago

The thing about Hillary's loss against Trump was that it should have shocked the Democratic party into reform. The way they manipulated to get Biden and "anyone but Bernie" proved that they learned nothing.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The fact that the Justice Department gave him enough time to tour around the country whining and crying, spreading his stolen election lies before they charged him is what won Trump the election. It's almost like they were in on it.

Edit: Clarity.

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[-] knightly@pawb.social 34 points 2 days ago

We haven't had any agency in this for a long time. The two parties run the show on behalf of our billionaire owners.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

One party fought tooth and nail to get cheaper healthcare for the vulnerable. I was one of them in my 20s. That same party regularly votes in favor of the middle and lower classes and doesn't take our rights away. Reduces prescription drug prices. Bans medical debt from showing up on credit reports. Forgives student loans.

Americans chose to give total power to the party that does the opposite.

Not. The. Same.

We can have a better future and inch towards things like universal healthcare by electing the only party that can be influenced. We're actively choosing not to.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Didn't say they were the same, I said that we have no control over what they do in our names

Rather, the parties and their owners control us as they have for generations, by owning the newsmedia and steering public opinion as they see fit.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago
[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

JustUs Department

[-] not3ottersinacoat@fedia.io 81 points 2 days ago

The only thing that Americans can do is obvious and yet all I've seen online is finger wagging and "hot takes". Fucking embarassed for you.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 41 points 2 days ago

There's a reason every American was raised on the mantra of "violence is never the answer" and "if you fight back you're just as bad."

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[-] Tja@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago

Americans can vote, and a majority of them voted for this a short few months ago. This is exactly what he said he would do. This is what he did the previous 4 years he was in power. Americans want this. They don't even have the excuse of popular vote this time around. They fully committed to this.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

Huh, fired? For what cause?

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Attempted justice.

[-] Signtist@lemm.ee 55 points 2 days ago

A criminal is the head of the governing body that makes the laws. Why even bother asking why he's not following them?

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

"cause what are you going to do about it?" Apparently

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Fascism is here. Causes aren't required anymore.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Its US. You can be fired at any time. What do you think this is? Europe?

[-] Charlatan@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Literally, from the article:

It was also not immediately known how many of the fired prosecutors intended to challenge the terminations by arguing that the department had cast aside civil service protections afforded to federal employees

That tells me federal employees have different rules and they may have a path to make things uncomfortable for a while. Whether that's worth the effort is up to them.

[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

By private companies. Federal employees have a lot more protections.

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[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago

Of course, it's more than just losing their jobs. What employer would hire someone with a target on their back from the President of the United States?

Their entire careers are screwed.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We aren't even close.

Virtually every last American in the middle class, what's left of it, will need to have a very sharp decline in their quality of life before we stand up in solidarity and force change. So, when their "Dancing With The Stars" gets taken away or their morning cup of coffee is so extremely expensive they can't afford it anymore. Basically, when they stop getting their fix.

We're headed in that direction for sure, but we ain't there yet.

Americans are pussies. We let creature comforts make us complacent well past the point that we should have done something.

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago

Good. Cannot imagine less efficient workers than the people who sat on their ass for four years and allowed Trump to get back in charge.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 51 points 2 days ago

Nothing of the sort happened. From Jack Smith's report:

A significant challenge that the Office faced after Mr. Trump's indictment was his ability and willingness to use his influence and following on social media to target witnesses, courts, and Department employees, which required the Office to engage in time-consuming litigation to protect witnesses from threats and harassment.

Volume I of that report is 174 pages of investigative findings, and we haven't seen volume II yet.

The idea that they were just lazy is completely ignorant of how long even normal federal cases take, let alone going against a former President with a penchant for stirring up a mob in his favor.

Those people did their jobs. The rest of the system failed them.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The system is designed to fail them.

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[-] projectsquared@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure that was all Garland.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Sue him. Inundate him with lawsuits regardless of the fact he's already gotten away with being a criminal so that the courts are forced to give attention to the numbers of wrongfully terminated gov't employees

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago

At least all that stuff about a weaponized DOJ is over right?

The only thing worse than Russia is a wannabe Russia that had a feasible choice.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is just the start. He's going to purge every competent person who believes in the national mythology / shows an ounce of backbone and replace them with incompetent yes men. These people tend to be very intelligent, resourceful, and well-connected. I don't think this will be the last we see of them. Something tells me that giving a whole lot of people who plotted the overthrows of multiple foreign governments lots of time off together maybe isn't his most brilliant idea yet.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 51 points 2 days ago

Straight from the Project 2025 manual. It's crazy that I tried to get people to read it before the election and I got called a conspiracy theorist, but here he is actually executing the plan and these same people just deny it's happening. I can't help but think they prefer to be ignorant.

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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago

Fired on what grounds? Can a suit, perhaps many, be filed for wrongful termination?

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Ordinarily you'd need ground for dismissal, yes. But one of the first things Trump did was follow the plan for Project 2025 which included, amongst other things, reclassifying a fuck ton of government jobs as political jobs, enabling Trump to hire and fire people for political reasons.

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[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago

"The horse has fired the horse catcher."

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

Up is down, black is white. I hate this country. Rather, I hate a lot of my fellow citizens.

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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 days ago

Can we find a way to rehire these people in some kind of public legal defense force to fight back against the administration? I would love that. Keep doing the same work just outside of the DOJ.

[-] jrs100000@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Oh yea, they did such a great job last time.

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