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Alright... but who's the bottom?
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Is it really not obvious who the bottom is?
Yeah, Trump's soft, shitty brain is no match for Elon's younger, shitty brain.
A reminder that he is wearing a “Occupy Mars” shirt. A movement to occupy Mars. How can we do this? Well we need water. And he wants to bomb Mars to achieve this. The Nazi supporting lunatic wants to bomb Mars!!!
#TrumpsTheBottom
This is just homophobia, by the way
Oh please do fuck off with that shit, Karen.
I remember when calling someone a Karen was a word with a meaning, specifically calling out bigoted white women - those who would punch down. This is the opposite; someone calling out bigotry.
I'm gay. lol You don't need to be upset on my behalf, thank you.
How?
Assuming good faith question: The (false) dichotomy of top/bottom implies a power dynamic in which the bottom is subservient to the top. In reality, it's often a simple preference and bottoms can domineer just as well as tops. Some prefer it that way. And there's more than top and bottom. Versatile is the obvious third option (no or changing preference for position) as well as side (prefers non-penetrative sex).
There's this stereotype (may not be the right word) that extends from the above in that tops are more masculine or powerful by virtue of topping, due to the tie with being dominant. Thus bottoms are more feminine and subservient. All of that is false and represents the gay community in a pretty bad, oversimplified, sexist-somewhere-along-the-line way.
The dom/sub axis is not the same as the top/bottom axis (not really an axis).
It’s not just the top/bottom part that’s problematic, it’s the entire post. The punchline is “Trump and Elon are gay for each other, isn’t that funny?” which centers the idea that it would be bad or wrong for them to be gay for each other, perpetuating the conservative stereotype that there’s something wrong with being gay.
Oh FFS.
We (gay people) have been pointing out the hypocrisy of homophobes with this sort of joke for ages and will continue to do it because it's fucking hilarious. We are, in doing so, celebrating that it's wonderful to be gay and sad that they don't see that or see there at times in-the-closet-like behavior.
The last thing thing I need is a bunch of word police telling me what I can and cannot say.
You know who IS making it seem like there's something wrong with being gay? People like you.
As a “joke” it treats being gay as derogatory. You’re welcome to make shitty homophobic jokes if you want to.
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Nobody's telling you what you can and can't say. They're telling you that what you said is in bad taste, and youre telling them to stop saying that.
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Good call, I missed it. We've got layers of shittiness in this meme.
Sure, but the joke here is turning the dumb jokes of the homophobes against them, right? Calling a homophobe "haha u'r gay n a bottom" is kinda using their homophobia against them, no?
Also, I'm gay myself. If someone said "haha, u like taking it up the ass", I would be like, "sure I do!". Say this to a homophobe n they would be incredibly offended. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
But sure, I get why the morals of this aren't so straightforward.
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This is just absolutely ridiculous. It's thought police over-engineering for clout.
It's a dissection of why some people in the LGBT community may be offended. If you're unwilling to try to see the perspective of others and choose to instead reject empathy, that's a problem for you and the people around you. This internet stranger will continue to have a good day.
Also, clout? On Lemmy? Oh good, I've got the support of all 12 of us...
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you really can't see how using sexuality to mock someone you hate is homophobic?
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Are you serious?
... you could just explain your logic you know.
It isn't the general consensus.
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This is just homophobia, by the way
Tell us you are not a gay man without telling us you are not a gay man.
Edit: Probably 85% of my social circle is some delicious flavor of queer. Kinda comes with being queer I guess. We make these jokes in part to normalize this sexuality and to make fun of hypocrites and bullies. It's the same thing as when the kid in school says "that's so gay" and you reply "oh really? You wanna get together later?". This has come up a few times - the sensitivity of some groups to these kinds of jokes - and the conclusion is basically that people who object to them are generally either not queer or insecure about being queer and want to exert control over the conversation either to get cred with the community or to assuage their fears.
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Is that why he wears diapers?
The thing I love the most about these memes is they're seriously effective.
Are they though? I feel like they just make those that found Trump and Elon to be really weird and rotten, have a laugh. I don't know anyone conservative, that has commented on these kinds of memes, to me or others I know.
Or did you mean effective in pulling some political stance BBJ reversal moves?
It's effective in driving a rift between Musk and Trump, as many news outlets are reporting that they've been contacted by the Trump PR Team to clarify that Trump is in charge after the "President Musk" taunting began. Trump's superiority complex and vanity is absolute, so being upstaged by a positionless goon will make him very unhappy.
Although, I concede that we don't know what actual longterm effect if any this will truly have.
Oh I see. That's a solid take on the situation IMO. Haha yeah. Time will tell what comes of this shit show being put on by goons, and loons, set on the verge of collapse, USA. Let dumpster fires light their way.
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There is no bottom.
There's always more barrel to scrape. And then there's the floor. And then there's the ground beneath the floor. And then there's miles of bedrock.
That's what you're talking about, right?
You really don't need to call every dude you dislike "gay".
That's a problem for sure if you are using it to insinuate that homosexual relationship are bad.
That's not what is happening here though, which you know ofc.
Careful kids, the thought police are out in force today. Don't say anything that might be deemed offensive by <some group I'm not part of> at some point in history!
I think it’s reasonable to ask why bottoming is presented as inherently degrading/submissive. (Same with giving oral - the insult “cocksucker.”) The vast majority of gay men I know are mostly verse anyway, the distinction of top and bottom to some extent seems like a carryover from heterosexual culture.
Like yes, it’s just a meme, but it’s revealing of larger problematic attitudes. I’ve made the same kinds of jokes too, but there would be nothing worse about Trump were he to receive anal sex from Musk (as unpleasant as that image is.)
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Don’t say anything that might be deemed offensive
Haha. Sex between men is a power dynamic. Teehee. Real intimacy is unattainable between male lovers. Giggle. Pleasure from anal sex is shameful.
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I mean, I bet trump is pretty lubed on a consistent basis, with his uncontrollable, oh so very wet sounds he makes. I'll put money on him being the bottom.
Like Ernst Röhm and Adolf Hitler. We know how that ended for both losers.
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