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[-] b161 122 points 6 days ago

“It’s not the class you were born into, it’s the class you’re willing to fight for.”

If he was poor the narrative would be he’s just jealous and should have got a job and worked his way up.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Yep, I'm reminded of Nina van Zandt Spies an heiress who gave it up to marry one of the haymarket martyrs. Sure of the Haymarket widows she's no Lucy Parsons, but America couldn't handle the one of her, much less a second.

We don't have a great many stories of people betraying the upper class for the lower, but all who do are welcome among us far more than those who betray our class for the upper are among them.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Yeah, the whole of the Haymarket affair is fascinating. It was a quick blurb in my history classes in school, but the rest of the world celebrates labor day on its anniversary.

Lucy Parsons is definitely the most interesting person involved. A freewoman who married a former confederate soldier (who would die for his role at Haymarket) and became a militant activist for anarchism and communism. She was a voice for returning fire on the rich and given her life story even liberals find it hard to blame her for it

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 181 points 6 days ago

Also, it's possible to be priveliged and also understand and sympathize with the problems of other people.

[-] hash@slrpnk.net 96 points 6 days ago

I got my B.S. years early with minimal debt. Working salaried in tech since I was 18. Since I can't buy a home I know shit is royally fucked and no I will not settle for simply scrambling to the top of my peers. Let's topple the tower.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Right? I don’t make a lot but I’m lucky to have support and I do(normally) make more than twice minimum wage. Whenever someone says that I should change jobs if I want more money I seriously consider pushing them infront of traffic.

My last bosses said, and I quote, “we are not responsible for paying for your lifestyle” in response to a Google Doc I shared showing how the salary they offer for my office job was grossly underpaying me and I was being quite generous. It’s like, what the fuck do they think a salary is? It’s literally the monetary compensation that someone gets which provides the lifestyle that we expect a given job should support.

All these bosses have been told how special they are for way too long and they seem to think that we actually enjoy working for them so much that our salaries are more like a nice bonus.

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Something about all the "evil boss" movies of the 80s and 90s really stuck with that generation. It's like they picked out the lowest of lows from the movie and said "you know what as long as I'm better than that I'm a good boss and people should be happy to work for me".

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Hell so many of them saw that and went “ooh maybe I can be like that someday!”

But yea, relativistic morality is a fuckin’ cancer and I hate it and the braindead people who suck so bad at life they need to find excuses like that for their shitty behaviour.

[-] Chev@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Bullshit years?

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Also, it’s possible to be privileged and have your life wrecked by this system.

Just fucking imagine what it’s like to be underprivileged and never have a chance in the first place.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'd wager many of us have been both multiple times, over our lives without even realizing it.

Actually understanding this?, now that's the first step to truly understand.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I’ve been in both positions – dirt poor and couldn’t get care, and also decently well-off (not rich) and still couldn’t get care, even with good insurance.

Now I’m destitute, partly because of health care debt, and am struggling to get any care at all. I seriously feel like the system actively wants me to die.

[-] MTK@lemmy.world 70 points 6 days ago

It's also possible to be in a stereotypical privileged position while still suffering from terrible things such as health issues that are not covered and are costly.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

Wait, so his suffering is less valid?

The hell?

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 15 points 5 days ago

He's literally extremely privileged and still suffered from a for profit system, so yes people with less means have it worse.

He did suffer, but he never became homeless, lived in fear day to day, or had to ration life-saving medications like insulin.

[-] FatTony@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago
[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago

Evidently you don't feel as strongly as he did to throw his privileged life away.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Meh, one person's feelings and how they act are hard to measure up to another person's feeling and how they act.

Someone who lost a loved one because of insurance bullshit might feel way stronger than a knowledgeable kid who sees the injustice. And a thousand other viewpoints too, might feel more strongly about it than the shooter.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Meh, that makes your point even more invalid than mine. Anyone could do anything for any reason and there's no real way to know anything for sure. Might as well sit in my room watching paint dry.

[-] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Not sure what you mean. Just saying you can't compare how people feel by their actions alone.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

You can't compare how anyone feels at all. Feelings are subjective, relative, and are only able to be compared by actions (including words). Even then they are famously difficult to communicate and compare. All I'm saying is that if you're going down that road you quickly hit the "technically we can't compare anything" wall.

So you're either stuck floating in apathy, being able to react to anything with "meh, we can't really know anything." Or you have to infer feelings based on actions and words.

Hell, I'm not even going to the mat for Luigi in particular, I just thought your response was silly. Actions alone can't compare how people feel, but unfortunately for us actions alone are all we have to compare.

[-] hungryphrog 36 points 6 days ago

Well, I'm increasingly beginning to think that that guy isn't even the Adjuster himself, and we shouldn't treat him like he is guilty. (of doing such a wonderful thing)

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

He may end up not being the shooter but he has a history of posting things that align with the ideology

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago
[-] in4aPenny@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I know I do. Speaking of, can't wait for billionaires to get the De Witt Brothers treatment.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Apropos of nothing, have you seen the prices of handguns these days? Even the parts for a 3D printed one can run you $900, easy. Fucking ridiculous out here.

[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Yet getting hernia corrected is $16,000. $900 barely pays the rent for a month anywhere in the country.

When the cost of living is so high the cost of dying needs to be levied on the ones responsible.

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

You can get a used glock for ~$400 USD.

Do you ship to the UK. /s

[-] FundMECFSResearch 8 points 6 days ago

Doesn’t every county Texas hand one out to you as a coming of age gift when you turn 18? Or was the cartoon I watched as a kid lying.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Holy shit really? I could get a pistol for 400€. Is there some kind of monopoly stuff going on that tries to reserve weapons for the rich?

Edit: did a quick search and found one a lightly used one for 130€

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I have no idea what the guy is talking about. Hi-points are under like 200$, and thats a complete pistol. It ain't luxurious but it shoots.

[-] SaltyLemon66@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

More heads need to roll. To the guillotine!

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

Let them eat cake!

  • Insurance companies
[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

~~Let them eat~~ cake denied!

  • Insurance companies

FTFY

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 5 days ago

Society: UHC, the people are rioting because they have no Bread!

UHC:

  • Bread DENYed by policy
  • Insured encourage to purpose other nutritional alternatives, like Cake.
[-] kyle@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I thought he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania?

Edit: I'm a moron and it's literally an Ivy League school. TIL

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago
[-] currycourier@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Isn't UPenn actually just Ivy League?

[-] kyle@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah turns out I'm dumb

Yes, according to my Kagi search.

[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 7 points 6 days ago

I thought he had an airpod on.

[-] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago

I'm pissed and I don't even have a cursor on my ear!

[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago

Watch this will be peek fashion soon.

[-] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

He is our leader in this revolution

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

leaders lead, symbols inspire.

Luigi is a symbol.

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