Honestly, I'm not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c'mon) is not okay.
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Delay, Deny, Depose. Remember, Remember the 4th of December.
Wasn't the entire point of moving to the Fediverse that we can easily switch instances if one goes bad?
Why are people still on .world lmao
Because it's no big loss if we end up getting banned, so as another commenter said. Laziness
And unless mods are being massive weirdos by checking how we're behaving in the comment sections of other instance's communities, then it's even less likely we'll be banned anyway.
So for now, I do nothing.
And express my total non-sadness at this CEO's, and probably many other CEO's deaths.
I'm not for the death penalty, but they sure as hell deserve it.
The problem is communities congregate where they are the largest. You can move yourself off of lemmy.world, but you can't move your community off of lemmy.world. You could make communities less dependent on the host they are on or any given moderator group, but Lemmy's design is not that. So you can sever yourself off of it, and now you are left the option of joining far smaller and less active alternative communities.
I don't believe it would be that hard to make a lemmy style federation where if your host or their moderator groups ban you, other hosts could still see you. That used to be the case with kbin, people could comment in communities based on instances that had banned them, even if those comments would only be seen in kbin. It was easily exploitable, because it bypassed moderation controls for the home instance and would really have required moderation group for that instance, but it could be done.
Imagine having links to communities like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ,but being capable of specifying a different moderator group / messaging handler dispatcher (or whatever the component in charge within an instance of determining which comments to inform users of is called) from another instance like, https://lemm.ee/c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com:lemm.ee , that would just default to the official if there wasn't any instance local group in charge. But that would cause so much drama because these positions attract control freaks.
you can’t move your community off of lemmy.world.
You can
Those are completely different communities, I'm talking about viewing and participating in the same community with different moderators/instances in charge. The examples you show are different communities, where it just so happens that one redirects to another because a moderation group decided to. It's not what I'm suggesting, taking the same comment pool and passing it off through the filter of a new instance/moderator group to moderate.
This solution still allows to address the LW centralization with the tools we have today.
Your solution requires rework of the Lemmy software that is probably not going to happen any time soon.
Except that it really wouldn't be a solution for OP's problem. It only works when the problem also isn't leading the moderation team.
In that case, organizing on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com allows to replace a community lead by power tripping mods.
Last example: !lotrmemes@midwest.social being replaced by !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
I'm pretty sure lemmy.world would not consider the way that moderator is acting "power-tripping", considering their stances.
Why are people still on .world lmao
Few reasons:
I joined when it was one of the smaller instances
Laziness
Currently looking to move
The large user base, and a couple of communities who don't care about current events. But it's not an admin thing anyway so - ? Does it really matter what instance it's on?
I dont' know what community that was in, but if it was one of the usual suspects, I'd say move to a different community. Not sure what .world has to do with it since it wasn't an admin thing, just some mod being mod. !Politics, I assume?
The fediverse will be at its greatest when communities can seamlessly switch instances. As seen from the minimal Reddit user migration, users won't switch as much as necessary to affect real change.
Inertia
It's a dumb argument because unless you're willing to lie to moderators with different usernames to trick them into not knowing who you are (ban evasion) being banned on one shitty instance locks you out of it and any communities it has. Lemmy.world has many of the bigger ones, lemmy.ml too.
Moving on isn't as easy as people make it seem. This is one of those Fediverse lies that people regurgitate ad-nauseam.
The truth is that bigger instances, or instances holding bigger communities hold a larger slice of the pie, and unless you forcefully remove people from the instances, or remove the instances from the people, they cannot be replaced. You can't start your own instance and communities to replace the big ones at the top. Your new one will occupy less of the pie.
Looking at the communities tab can give you an idea of which ones they are
Community Tab screenshot
The instances which hold these positions hold control, and they can't be as easily replaced or bypassed. So "Just move to another server" doesn't work unless you're encouraging ban evasion, which most people are not. They can make a real impact on your experience in the Fediverse, and trying to deny that fact is disingenuous and misinformation, because they absolutely do hold control here. They are the ones who's actions make a difference, especially because they cannot be replaced easily.
Fuck lemmy.world
We need to move communities off LW.
Lemmy is way too dominated by those bootlicking batards
Small list from @lvxferre@mander.xyz
discussion: !askusa@discuss.online, !casualconversation@lemm.ee, !yurop@lemm.ee
technology: !technology@lemmy.zip, !linux@programming.dev, !android@lemdro.id
politics: !uk_politics@feddit.uk (UK), !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net (USA), !canadapolitics@lemmy.ca (Canada), !australianpolitics@aussie.zone (Oz), !politics@beehaw.org (allegedly world, in practice USA)
news: !world@quokk.au , !globalnews@lemmy.zip
comic strips: I couldn't find any general comm, but there's !cyanideandhappiness@lemm.ee and !thefarside@sh.itjust.works
microblog memes: !best_of_mastodon@sh.itjust.works , !whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works , nonpoliticaltwitter@civilloquy.com
political memes: !politicalmemes@lemmy.ca , !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
memes: !memes@sopuli.xyz, !funny@sh.itjust.works
ask lemmy: !asklemmy@lemm.ee
movies and animattion: !movies@lemm.ee , !showsandmovies@lemm.ee , !animation@lemm.ee .
Specifically for Japanese anime there's ani.social (the whole instance).
I wouldn't recommend Beehaw for people since they may not be accessible on the instances people might choose and they tend to be a bit more heavy handed with their approach.
They've also stated they don't have much long term commitment to being part of the Fediverse or being on Lemmy so I wouldn't put much faith in them as a good replacement to lemmy.world.
Ani.social mentioned!
Anyway, isn't beehaw way worse than world? Like, to the point they were at one point trying to leave lemmy so they could better isolate their community? As far as politics goes in Lemmy world is in control, sadly, since it's the worst part of world in my experience.
Beehaw is isolationist = picky on who it federates with, but it's transparent on that. And the main reason why its admins want another software is the sorry state of the Lemmy mod tools.
It improved quite a lot since 0.18.3.
I always feel like Beehaw are in a weird spot. Either keep using Lemmy to keep up with the new features for both the mods and the users, or switch to Mbin or Piefed, they are viable options.
This in between is just strange.
.world can suck the shit from my colon
desalines of ml is the ultimate power tripping bastard
Lol, lmao even
It’s well documented so you can lol all u want but doesn’t change a damn thing
If one protects CEOs aren't they the one advocating violence against the common people?
Yes, advocating for the killing of children in the most literal sense
People who complain about moderation on this platform tend to be really obnoxious.
Case in point OP screenshotting a Royal ‘we’ advocating murdering people in a job description with no other criteria and a couple generic emojis to boot.
Relative to the volume of content and platform tools available please just communicate responsibly. There is an objective standard for advocating for future violence and OPs comment clearly meets that.
You're a dumb ass who needs to learn plausible deniability.
It will happen to anyone who uses .world sooner or later.
Bunch of sensitive cucks.
I got banned from world for similar. Also got banned for stating a fact: democrat joe Lieberman single-handedly killed the single payer option during the passage of obamacare/aca.
The libs can’t cope.
Edit for the libs:
A senator from Connecticut, the insurance capital of the world, became the industry’s go-to guy. Insurers had spent years investing in Sen. Joe Lieberman, a former Democrat-turned-Independent. During the reform debate, the watchdog group Public Campaign Action Fund, (now called EveryVoice), called Lieberman an “insurance puppet,”noting that insurers had contributed nearly half a million dollars to his campaigns over the years.
The Democrats needed Lieberman’s vote to get reform passed, and insurers knew it. Shortly before the Senate was set to vote on the bill, Lieberman said he would vote for the bill only if the public option was stripped out.
Cope and seethe libs. Your electoralism and ability to be easily fooled by the DNC’s lies but but republicans! have led us to this mess. And yes, it goes without saying the republicans are no better. But who needs enemies when one has backstabbing democrats for friends? But if we vote harder we’ll have the votes! no, you fucking won’t. Another fucking patsy will make sure to torpedo any kind of progressive legislation, anything to the left of neoliberalism. See Manchin, Sinema, and the fucking senate parliamentarian for examples.
Yeah, it would have been a lot better if leftists people simply hadn't voted in the first place. Having a Republican in his seat instead would surely have improved things
It wouldn’t of changed anything. How are you not seeing the logic?
Genuinely curious what you think they should have done differently. You said that voting got us into this mess, but also that it wouldn't have changed anything. What should they do?
I mean, violent revolution is the answer, but that isn't mutually exclusive to voting
I’m saying electoralism does not work. And Americans won’t unify their labor power. Stochastic terrorism it is.
neglected assistance is slightly different from violence though.
But insurance is supposed to payout when an insured person needs it. The only claims they should deny are fraudulent claims. There is an agreement, so neglecting the agreement is still liability.
Like a home care worker being employed and assigned to an elderly person, then decide to go on an hour phone call and not making sure the elderly person doesn't like fall down or anything, then they finish their hour-long phone call and find that the person they were supposed to be taking care of have fallen down the stairs. Like the home care worker didn't cause them to die, but its practically the same. There's probably lawsuits and probably also criminal charges.
But in the CEO situation, the ananlogy would be more like the elderly person ask you to help them walk, and you just refuse to do your job, then they fall down the stairs and you don't even call an ambulance while watching them die. That's essentially what the healthcare executives are doing. They are neglecing to provide the service they agreed to while taking premiums. That should be criminal.
To be fair, the post is a news report covering the CEO's public mass death threat, not an endorsement of it.
Meh, if you're still on that comm at this point you deserve it
Is there an alternative community for US News? There is !AskUSA@discuss.online for USA discussion, !world@quokk.au for world news, but not sure about US news
Maybe !usa@midwest.social ? Although that admin is known to be power tripping: https://feddit.org/post/5508290
It’s sorta default to start there since it’s the biggest instance. Obviously you can start anywhere but someone new to the fediverse is still learning how it all works.
Maybe they misread depose as 'dispose' idk .
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms