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Honestly, I'm not mad, its just funny how state/corporate sponsored violence is all okay but a pleb making a joke (its not even a real threat c'mon) is not okay.

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[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

neglected assistance is slightly different from violence though.

But insurance is supposed to payout when an insured person needs it. The only claims they should deny are fraudulent claims. There is an agreement, so neglecting the agreement is still liability.

Like a home care worker being employed and assigned to an elderly person, then decide to go on an hour phone call and not making sure the elderly person doesn't like fall down or anything, then they finish their hour-long phone call and find that the person they were supposed to be taking care of have fallen down the stairs. Like the home care worker didn't cause them to die, but its practically the same. There's probably lawsuits and probably also criminal charges.

But in the CEO situation, the ananlogy would be more like the elderly person ask you to help them walk, and you just refuse to do your job, then they fall down the stairs and you don't even call an ambulance while watching them die. That's essentially what the healthcare executives are doing. They are neglecing to provide the service they agreed to while taking premiums. That should be criminal.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

yeah, i'm not saying it's not criminal and bad behavior, but it's not violence. (it was called violence in the OP)

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago

Denying healthcare is violence. Just because there’s layers of paper pushers in between the patient and the corporation denying care doesn’t change things.

Engels said it best:

When one individual inflicts bodily injury upon another such that death results, we call the deed manslaughter; when the assailant knew in advance that the injury would be fatal, we call his deed murder. But when society places hundreds of proletarians in such a position that they inevitably meet a too early and an unnatural death, one which is quite as much a death by violence as that by the sword or bullet; when it deprives thousands of the necessaries of life, places them under conditions in which they cannot live – forces them, through the strong arm of the law, to remain in such conditions until that death ensues which is the inevitable consequence – knows that these thousands of victims must perish, and yet permits these conditions to remain, its deed is murder just as surely as the deed of the single individual; disguised, malicious murder, murder against which none can defend himself, which does not seem what it is, because no man sees the murderer, because the death of the victim seems a natural one, since the offence is more one of omission than of commission. But murder it remains.

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago

Perspective can definitely change when one experiences needless suffering or death, or watches a loved one go through that

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

"violence" comes from "violation" which we can agree is the case when unethical insurance providers deny doctor-recommended treatment.

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