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submitted 2 days ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/politics@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 hours ago

He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

bill attempts to stop something that was never occuring

Holy shit, it worked and it hasn't even been signed yet.

I don't know about y'all but I don't remember Kamala or Biden directly spreading information in favor of lgbtq+ values. That's mostly been Hollywood. There might be some lobbying going on and some shoulder rubbing, but... I mean, I have yet to even hear Biden say the word trans in any real context unless I'm wrong, here. Their stance is less a stance and more of a "you're human, you're cool too".

But the scene does seem to be that the Republican party can just claim they stopped Kaijus and Holy wars and their fanbases will eat it up, so...

"Hey, my podcast said you didn't exist yesterday."

...sorry to disappoint you.

[-] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Imagine if we had a senate that was focused on real political and social issues instead of who has the "right" to go to the bathroom. Fucking nonsense.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I mean they had the chance during 4 years didn't they

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

No-one is "replacing biological sex" silly.

Gender is different from sex. It's related, but separate.

[-] tiefling 4 points 6 hours ago

Sex and gender are also both very nuanced and complicated terms

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Idk about the terms, but the concepts and definitions are, yeah.

[-] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not stating anything in the article isn't true, but wouldn't it be better to post a less biased source? That website has a very obvious bias. The other day, someone used motherjones as a source. I know Lemmy is extremely left leaning, but left wing rags shouldn't be used as legitimate sources.

The headline alone should be enough to avoid that website. No one is trying to erase them. That's hyperbole.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Legally erase. It's not hyperbolic, it's literally what the bill is about.

[-] sennish@lemm.ee 17 points 10 hours ago

“As a physician who has delivered over 5,000 babies, I can confidently say that politicizing children’s gender to use them as pawns in their radical woke agenda is not only wrong, it is extremely dangerous" has got to be the most unaware sentence I've ever seen.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Ya know, this "guy" goes by the name Roger and wears a suit and tie - why I bet he uses the "mens" bathroom... but how do we even know he's "male"? No seriously, how do we know he's not secretly just using the "mens" to try to assault/molest/peep on other alleged "men"?

I mean, if he's defining "male" then what follows, clearly, are inspections. He should not be exempt from them but, if he truly has nothing to hide, should be willing to be first in line.

wHaT ArE yOu HiDiNg "Roger"?

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago

They're not even replacing anything, they're just adding to it. Why do ya'll even care. Life is already so fucking miserable, even worse when you feel like you're not even in the right body. Fucking help people. Why is it that seemingly every politician just hates people? Why go out of your wait to be a representative just to make people miserable.

[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Because picking on ever smaller societal minority classes makes them look hard on the issues. Torturing people that otherwise don't effect you is easy political points for heartless monsters representing imbeciles.

Exploiting hatred instead of trying to resolve hatred really.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If centrists wanted to be upset about bigotry against trans people, they could have started when they were blaming trans people for Harris losing. They could have started when their candidates were parroting Republican "boys in girls' sports" bigotry in their own ads.

The indignation here rings hollow because like all the pretended morals of centrism, it is hollow.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

For the first time in history we had a president address trans issues in a state of the union. No democratic politicians have enacted legislation against Trans - in fact quite the opposite. But here you stand grandstanding again.

Get over blaming centrists for all your problems and enjoy the next four years

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Tell me, how happy were you to see the bigotry you agree with at all times repeated by candidates in your own party?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Like what? Got any examples?

Edit: I see just down votes. Anyone got examples??

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

https://youtu.be/TKBJoj4XyFc?t=714

Colin Allred and Vicente Gonzalez, in their own words.

Edit: I see just down votes. Anyone got examples??

My examples were posted before you made this edit. And you are whining about exactly one downvote.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I remember these now. I find those two candidates and their messaging despicable. However I should caveat: these are two small town local races. They run in stark contrast to the messaging from the President.

I understand the Dnc is a big party tent. In an ideal world I'd love to see a true progressive party take hold in America. The DNC needs a thorough shake up. Im feeling pretty glum about it atm tbh

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

However I should caveat: these are two small town local races

Allred was running for US Senate. Gonzalez was running to represent TX-34 in the US House of Representatives. I gave you their names and you can use google.

I understand the Dnc is a big party tent.

Yeah, big enough for anti-trans hate and not one but two Cheneys. But fuck progressives.

In an ideal world I’d love to see a true progressive party take hold in America.

And an ideal world is your prerequisite since it means shutting out progressives until that happens.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I personally didn't shut down progressives. When I say ideal world I'm just stating my preference. As in I'd really like to see a progressive party. Non the other way around.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Tell us again how Allred and Gonzalez were running for city council and dogcatcher.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I already called them despicable. Do you want me to suck your dick too? I'm pretty done with the Dems too. I dgaf any more

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I already called them despicable.

After trying to pretend that they were running in backwater races of no consequence.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago

Someone should establish a Department of Senate Efficiency to look into whether that is an efficient use of the senates time.

[-] undercrust@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago

Not a catchy enough name for fuckin Neanderthals to chuckle about

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 40 points 1 day ago

Not the dangerous radical gender ideology of trying to be happy

Is there any argument for trans people getting their rights removed?

[-] stembolts@programming.dev 51 points 1 day ago

Setting aside the mind, it is a biological fact that approximately 1 in 1700 people are born with both sexual organs.

They're supposed to just, die?

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

Intersex people occur at the same rate as redheads. This is the same thing as a proposal to kill all redheads for being redheads

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

But gingers don’t have a soul so I guess it’s fine?

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

This is really fascinating. I had to idea. Would love to read more on this if you have any recommendations

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago

Because irony has been bludgeoned to death by these bigots, I’d like to point out they’ve already been performing sex-reassignment surgery on intersex infants to make them conform to a binary sex, without the knowledge or consent of the baby and sometimes the parents. That’s been happening for ages in some places.

So all their tantrums over kids getting sex surgeries are technically true, except they have it completely backwards. It’s done to newborns to force traditional conformity, and they’re the ones doing it.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago

What seems like a rhetorical question to you does not to a fascist.

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