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submitted 2 months ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/politics@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 129 points 2 months ago

Might as well define the Earth as flat and the Moon as green cheese while he's at it.

Do these fuckers have literally nothing else to do than wage wars against reality?

[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

Maybe a strategy to distract the masses while they and their ~~supporters~~ handlers steal the country blind.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 16 points 2 months ago

I think you mis-spelled "Likely".

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I know you misspelled "certainly."

[-] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

They might try. They’ve already tried to legislate a definition of pi to equal exactly 3.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

No, I refuse to believe that's ever hap-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill

Motherfucker...

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[-] MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

It keeps us divided. It misdirects the anger of their base towards something other than how badly they are being fucked.

Never attribute that to malice which can be adequately explained by stupidity.... Unless it comes from the mouth of a Republican politician.

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[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 110 points 2 months ago

This is surely going to lower the price of eggs.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 months ago

When women are factory farmed baby makers...oh you meant those eggs.

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago

I kind of feel like all this spawned from some hot trans-girl turning down one of these shitstains and they've never let it go.

[-] applebusch 12 points 2 months ago

To be honest it's probably all the hot trans-girls turning them down, like there's a conspiracy or something, but hot trans-girls just don't like conservative assholes.

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[-] stembolts@programming.dev 57 points 2 months ago

Setting aside the mind, it is a biological fact that approximately 1 in 1700 people are born with both sexual organs.

They're supposed to just, die?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 months ago

What seems like a rhetorical question to you does not to a fascist.

[-] tiefling 27 points 2 months ago

According to Republicans, yes

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Because irony has been bludgeoned to death by these bigots, I’d like to point out they’ve already been performing sex-reassignment surgery on intersex infants to make them conform to a binary sex, without the knowledge or consent of the baby and sometimes the parents. That’s been happening for ages in some places.

So all their tantrums over kids getting sex surgeries are technically true, except they have it completely backwards. It’s done to newborns to force traditional conformity, and they’re the ones doing it.

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Intersex people occur at the same rate as redheads. This is the same thing as a proposal to kill all redheads for being redheads

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[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 44 points 2 months ago

Not the dangerous radical gender ideology of trying to be happy

Is there any argument for trans people getting their rights removed?

[-] runner_g 35 points 2 months ago
[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

People dont hate trans people just to hate trans people. They have reason, even if they are bad

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Bullshit. It comes from a simple disgust reflex. Everything else is post-hoc justification.

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[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 43 points 2 months ago

We need media stepping up the messaging that the Right is infatuated with the genitals of people, especially children. Outside of maybe your Dr. (and/or partner), nobody should be talking about, or caring about your genitals to the degree the Right is in this pervy/pedo crusade of late.

[-] fedupwithbureaucracy@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

We really need to start saying that these people want their own family members killed. It seems to be the only thing that can get some people to listen

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

They're not even replacing anything, they're just adding to it. Why do ya'll even care. Life is already so fucking miserable, even worse when you feel like you're not even in the right body. Fucking help people. Why is it that seemingly every politician just hates people? Why go out of your wait to be a representative just to make people miserable.

[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Because picking on ever smaller societal minority classes makes them look hard on the issues. Torturing people that otherwise don't effect you is easy political points for heartless monsters representing imbeciles.

Exploiting hatred instead of trying to resolve hatred really.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Someone should establish a Department of Senate Efficiency to look into whether that is an efficient use of the senates time.

[-] undercrust@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Not a catchy enough name for fuckin Neanderthals to chuckle about

[-] sennish@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago

“As a physician who has delivered over 5,000 babies, I can confidently say that politicizing children’s gender to use them as pawns in their radical woke agenda is not only wrong, it is extremely dangerous" has got to be the most unaware sentence I've ever seen.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If centrists wanted to be upset about bigotry against trans people, they could have started when they were blaming trans people for Harris losing. They could have started when their candidates were parroting Republican "boys in girls' sports" bigotry in their own ads.

The indignation here rings hollow because like all the pretended morals of centrism, it is hollow.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For the first time in history we had a president address trans issues in a state of the union. No democratic politicians have enacted legislation against Trans - in fact quite the opposite. But here you stand grandstanding again.

Get over blaming centrists for all your problems and enjoy the next four years

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Tell me, how happy were you to see the bigotry you agree with at all times repeated by candidates in your own party?

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

bill attempts to stop something that was never occuring

Holy shit, it worked and it hasn't even been signed yet.

I don't know about y'all but I don't remember Kamala or Biden directly spreading information in favor of lgbtq+ values. That's mostly been Hollywood. There might be some lobbying going on and some shoulder rubbing, but... I mean, I have yet to even hear Biden say the word trans in any real context unless I'm wrong, here. Their stance is less a stance and more of a "you're human, you're cool too".

But the scene does seem to be that the Republican party can just claim they stopped Kaijus and Holy wars and their fanbases will eat it up, so...

"Hey, my podcast said you didn't exist yesterday."

...sorry to disappoint you.

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[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Wait, if they are erased, can they then become invisible superheroes?

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[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

No-one is "replacing biological sex" silly.

Gender is different from sex. It's related, but separate.

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[-] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Imagine if we had a senate that was focused on real political and social issues instead of who has the "right" to go to the bathroom. Fucking nonsense.

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[-] MarkAB@mastodon.world 8 points 2 months ago

@floofloof And this guy is an actual MD, as in medical doctor.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago

Aren't doctors supposed to take an oath to do no harm? This will cause so much harm.

[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

~~Republican~~ lawmakers only swear an oath to whomever is paying them the most.

Edit: Democrats do it too, just not as obviously and not all of them. Until we get rid of corporate lobbying, we'll be firmly in an oligarchy.

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

Dr Oz is a real doctor as well. Unfortunately medical school doesn't prevent people from being delusional. Or giant assholes for that matter

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Dr. Oz is the 1 doctor out of 10 who chooses the other brand.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Ya know, this "guy" goes by the name Roger and wears a suit and tie - why I bet he uses the "mens" bathroom... but how do we even know he's "male"? No seriously, how do we know he's not secretly just using the "mens" to try to assault/molest/peep on other alleged "men"?

I mean, if he's defining "male" then what follows, clearly, are inspections. He should not be exempt from them but, if he truly has nothing to hide, should be willing to be first in line.

wHaT ArE yOu HiDiNg "Roger"?

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

of course I hate the active reduction of freedom. But may I ask, how important is this? Will trans people be able to continue to survive? Existing and being who you believe you are seems to be the important detail which pisses then off. They can't do anything but be explicitly rude.

Should someone decide to fight you for being trans, I will fight for + with you.

Writing this comment mildly drunk, I'm sure there's problems with it, but what if it's like rain off a window, you look at it and ignore it?

[-] tiefling 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is a precursor to them trying to sue trans people for "fraud" by having documents with the correct gender marker. Also, the cruelty is the point, and this is in itself cruel.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Cripes. The fuckin struggle just to survive never ends. I don't get what people's problem is, and at this point an convinced I never will. Fuck em.

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[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 months ago

They can also force transgender people in institutional settings (prison, college, military, etc) to be housed with the wrong gender. That can be dangerous.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah for sure. I understand. I wish people could just be.

[-] hovercat 15 points 2 months ago

Getting rid of Title IX protections is going to make surviving pretty fucking hard if you wind up with a bigoted manager who decides to fire you... Or just companies decide they don't want to hire trans people at all.

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

They can be denied appropriate medical care.

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