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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[-] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 215 points 5 months ago

Smokers hope cancer reaches only 'bad people'

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 93 points 5 months ago

you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 49 points 5 months ago

i think there's so much discourse about this since Latin men voted, on the whole, for trump. there is a non zero number of people who, if trump implements his border control plan, voted for their own deportation

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 38 points 5 months ago

also, white people dont own a monopoly on racism. some of the most racist people i know are also 'legal' immigrants of a minority population.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 33 points 5 months ago

no one hates immigrants more than an immigrant who made it

i've heard that quote a few times. but i think it's on the whole sadder:

no one hates the poor more than a poor person who thinks they made it

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

This is so true. I heard sooo many times from Latinos where I work after the first Trump election that they voted pro-Trump. The ones who are here who have managed to get citizenship look down on the ones who don’t have it. It’s like a flip of light switch.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Definitely the Republican mindset. I got mine, fuck everyone else!

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

All those Muslim folks who voted for Trump to "punish" Harris are in for a rude awakening. This isn't only about Hispanics.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 58 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

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[-] plz1@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

They made "migrating" a crime, so, yeah, leopards...face...

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 13 points 5 months ago

Carlos can’t vote, but a majority of both Latino men and Latino women voted for Kamala.

The only majority that voted for Trump is white people.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy.”

I think you missed this part.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm still trying to understand this belief that he is good for the economy. He's a failed business man who bankrupted a casino. His successful businesses are all grifts and money laundering. To say nothing of how our economy tanked after 4 years of his failed trade wars and 2+2=7 tax plan.

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[-] islands@lemmy.cafe 44 points 5 months ago

How can anyone listen to Trump's racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking "he doesn't mean me"? He absolutely means you. There's about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What part of "mass deportations" do people not understand? Trump told us what he's going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he's going to do. They're going to do it.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

There's only 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states. The Trump Administration has pledged to deport 20 million. Which means they are going to be expelling American citizens from their home as well. It's not just going to be criminals. It's going to be anyone whose skin tone they don't like.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago

Yeah, they're talking about deporting the children of undocumented immigrants.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Which if they are born in the United States are United States citizens. Which is important to remember. They're looking to deport people to countries they've never been to. Whose languages they don't speak. It would be one thing if they were talking about young children who still needed their parents. Yes by all means don't tear families apart is the Trump Administration previously did. But they are talking about the adult children as well. So it's particularly extra despicable.

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 months ago

people with accents, too. doesn't matter if you've been here for ten years: if you sound different, someone will report you to ICE

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[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 37 points 5 months ago

To trump, every immigrant is a criminal.

Saying "the legal ones are welcome" is a smokescreen.

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Except his wife, I'm sure. She's one of the "good ones".

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[-] SoleInvictus 12 points 5 months ago

"The legal ones are welcome" is the "there will be exceptions for rape and incest" of anti-immigration rhetoric. It was always a lie meant to placate those with a few remaining shreds of a conscience.

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[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

Ummmmm Conservatives already see them as criminals because they are here "illegal". By default all undocumented migrants are criminals.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

Oh Carlos, mi dulce niño del verano ...

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[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

I know y’all want to make this a stupid voters leopards ate my balls post but these are undocumented people. They can not vote and had no say in the election.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Remember the old maxim: "no one hates new immigrants more than old immigrants"... Their fellow legalized immigrants supported this outcome as well

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

I'm not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.

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[-] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Why didn't literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?"

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

INCLUDING the racist, genocidal maniac?!?1?

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[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 21 points 5 months ago

Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren't coming for their biggest target first. They're coming for their political opposition, the "abortionists", the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill...

RFK Jr.:

"I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,"

Re-education camps, huh.

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[-] tiefling 20 points 5 months ago

I'm honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he's going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

Very foolish people. Get ready to find a new home.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Aren't criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Lol keep dreaming. First they come for one.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 15 points 5 months ago

“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”

They've also mentioned along the lines of "if you are here illegally, then you've already committed a crime".

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

The fun part is, it's not actually a crime. That's why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.

I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.

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[-] frunch@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

The trump admin couldn't be bothered to keep the children and parents together while caging immigrants last time--why would anyone expect him to differentiate the legals from the illegals?

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 5 months ago

Seeing a lot of voting blocks which apparently were clueless as to what they were voting for. The leopards won't care.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Oh yes, just "the bad hombres". /s

So, the leopards are coming for the faces, huh? Who would've guessed?

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